Make & Models Likes and Dislikes

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  • #40834 Reply

    lightbodyae55
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    Hi Everyone

    I thought a thread about which Makes & Models we as users Like and Dislike, so I will start this off.

    As you may know from a post I made on a thread about Ford cars I totally dislike this make and all modals, due to their unreliability over the years. The same goes for Vauxhall, and now they have become part of Peugeot, it will become worse.

    Citroen/Peugeot/Renault/Fiat. Don’t like any of these makes due to horrible driving experiences. The worst car I drove was a Citroen C4 Picasso semi automatic diesel, what a horrid car to drive. Fiat (I think the model was a Mirafiori 1600 CL) I thought this was a Fred Flintstone car with the holes in the floorpan, and as for the colour, it was supposed to be light blue but it was more red rust than anything else, and as for the ride, just horrible. I have driven Renault’s and Peugeot’s in the past don’t remember the models, but do remember how bad & uncomfortable the ride was.

    Likes: I liked Datsun (now Nissan) I found these very enjoyable to drive. Kia Shuma, this was a joy to drive. Skoda Octavia This is my dream car I have had three of these over the years and find they are wonderful. I wish we could keep the vehicles that we like through Motability, without them, changing anything or removing them from the scheme.

    I would be interested in what others on this forum have as their likes and dislikes.

    lightbodyae55

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  • #40843 Reply

    Timerfirst

    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Hee hee,my dad bought a 1600cl,fiat 131 supermiafiori. He owned a brown one,a 1981 model, from 1985 to 1990. Apart from the horrendous rust (jack going through jacking points several times), the only thing that ever happened to it was the fan belt snapping! To this day it was more reliable than his 2012 Toyota. The noise this fiat made when my dad dropped from 5th gear to 3rd to overtake an Orion 1600i,was better than any V8 or V6 I’ve ever driven. Couldn’t understand how it was so reliable, using not a drop of oil in 5 years or water (it was my job to check it) and was never,I repeat, never, ever,serviced in that time! It rotted to death but I reckon the engine must live on if 5 years worth of sludge didn’t kill it! He replaced it with av1985 ford escort 1.3,had it for 3 years,but this used loads of oil,loads!</p>

  • #40844 Reply

    Timerfirst

    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Oh and I worked as a taxi driver for most of my adult life before illnesses took over. Peugeot 406s were more reliable than mercs and volvos we had, probably because I drove like my gran! I’m getting my first motability car soon,a seat Leon st 1.6 TDI with dsg auto box. The test drive was sublime 😊</p>

  • #40847 Reply

    Nick Gray
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    <p style=”text-align: right;”>I always say if you want to find a good car that is reliable and good mpg just look at what taxi drivers drive. The best engine I have come across in diesel is the 1.5 dci in renault it’s mpg is over 70 and goes on forever easy 800 miles to  a tank 55.00 cost. Yeah it’s not a power engine but 110 or 115 what ever it is gets the car moving No issues.  Worst car ever was Vauxhall Astra mainly because the engine blew up at dealership the day I collected it I kid you not lol. 2013 . Really don’t trust Vauxhall cars.</p>

  • #40852 Reply

    TheSUVGuy

    Anything German is great, but I have to say, I’ve been driving a tiguan (both models) for 5 years now, test drove the Peugeot 5008, not only did I think it was more fun to drive, the interior is so refreshing

  • #40853 Reply

    Timerfirst

    No Vauxhall for me,though a diesel cavalier I once drove was great. In 2007 my boss bought me a 1997 Peugeot 406 1.9 turbo diesel with 118k on the clock. It had just had it’s original clutch replaced. It was previously owned by our mechanic’s uncle who was a sheep farmer,so it towed cattle trailers all day! I could get 650/700 miles per tank because even though I was in my early thirties,I drove like my gran! My nickname was captain slow! I managed another 7 years on the replacement clutch before it was retired from active service in 2015, when it became 18! There 451,000 miles on the clock,the engine was saved,the gearbox was on its way out,and the rest was cubed! I’d asked my boss to buy a nice Laguna oddly enough, with the 1.5 dci engine. I told him I’d get 800 miles per tank,he asked for a lend of a few grand to buy one! Merc c and e class were on our fleet, and were rubbish. Our 406s and Volvo V70 s were king, but mainly the Peugeots. Wish my boss bought me that Laguna 😊

  • #40854 Reply

    lightbodyae55
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    Hi

    Both my Skoda Octavia’s Hatchbacks I had in the mid 90’s and early 2000’s were both 1.6 diesels, used as taxi’s in and around Norfolk and Suffolk, both vehicles amassed more than 180,000 miles in their 3 year use each.

    As these became part of the VW group during that period then anything made by them was worth looking at and driving then.

    lightbodyae55

     

    • #40914 Reply

      Timerfirst

      Ex taxis can make good daily drivers. Despite the mileage,oil changes on our fleet were close to every 6 weeks, and timing belts annually. My boss never bought Volkswagen group cars,but he did run a BMW 730i, and a couple of Volvo 940 turbos. What you spend on fuel,you save on servicing 😊

  • #40857 Reply

    JS (justsaying)
    Moderator

    Oh dear Lightbodyae55 this could be a controversial thread lol, a lot of people get very protective and don’t like to hear a bad word about their 4 wheeled Family Member!

    im not sure I can say I dislike a certain brand or model as I can always see why they may appeal to someone else, but A bugbear and dislike when on a manufacturers website and building a car I give up if to many options or extras, it’s good to have some unlike on Hyundai where your only choice is colour, but whilst trying to build a BMW X1 I couldn’t believe nearly everything had a option , fantastic car but I would never know and worry about what I was getting, you can’t even go to to a showroom to look as they never have a base model just ones with £5000 worth off confusion added.

    Oh and I don’t like dealerships/manufacturers which seems to be all of them not giving mud flaps and car mats as standard! Seriously who doesn’t want them ? I can’t believe if they were standard people would take them off. Grrr

    • #40863 Reply

      BritishBulldog

      Totally agree justsaying about four squares of carpet and 4 pieces of plastic for the mudflaps are not standard mind you the majority of cars a spare wheel is an optional extra.

  • #40867 Reply

    Rudy Maertens
    Participant

    i loved my Seat Leon

     

    I hate my Vauxhall Insignia

     

    At the moment looks like my next car will be a Mini Countryman

    • #40873 Reply

      Markymate

      My last two cars have been Insignia estates, the first one, an SRI, the second, an Elite.  Never had a moments trouble from either.  Quite sad to see it go in a couple of weeks, but look like a flailing turtle trying to get out of it now!!

      • #40874 Reply

        Rudy Maertens
        Participant

        i’ve got a 65plate insignia estate Elite Nav 2.0 D

         

        Our biggest problems are

        1) The electric boot is temperamental

        2) We don’t find the seats comfortable at all

        3)Handbrake sometime just disengages

        but every thing works brilliantly while at the garage

         

        also think that the fuel consumption is absolutely horrible

         

        and now the car is becoming to low down <— That is not the car’s fault

         

        i completely understand that everybody is different and for some people the car will be brilliant…

        we find the Mini Countryman a brilliant vehicle to sit in and my neighbour finds it uncomfortable

        • #40909 Reply

          Markymate

          Mines the same as yours Rudy, but a 15 plate. Never had any of the problems you’ve had, and done 17,882 miles, at 43.8 MPG, so I’m not unhappy about that. I had the tyres set at Eco, which helps a bit, although you do get a bit more road surface noise.

          • #40964 Reply

            Rudy Maertens
            Participant

            i’ve got tyres at Eco and about similar mileage… i struggle to get 30mpg… car struggles to go uphill (half the time i feel like a rally driver as i have to change gear every 5 seconds… the car feels underpowered…

             

      • #40922 Reply

        Timerfirst

        Flailing turtle is the description I’d use for getting out of my peugeot 207 😊. I’m getting my first motability car in may June July time,a Leon st. Seats are nice and adjustable, don’t think I’ll fall in or out if I get my measurements right 😂

    • #40916 Reply

      Timerfirst

      I’ve a Leon coming round about may June July time😊. An st dsg 1.6 TDI. I was sold on the smallest of test drives, plus,as my son is 18,I can get him insured to drive when I’m not fit or if I end up in hospital again,lol

  • #40871 Reply

    Justin

    Had a diesel semi-auto c4 grand picasso as my previous car, loved the amount of space inside and the well integrated dash electronics, it had way more poke in it than the 2.0l petrol model i had before that, down sides was the terrible gear change lag when you needed to put your foot down, helped to re-empt by using the paddles, bit noisy too.

    currently driving mitsubishi outlander phev, love the ev driving experience, no gears to lag, great torque when you need to put your foot down. hate the half arsed nature of pretty much all the electronics, factory fitted reversing sensors that just beep quietly in the distance, dont even lower the music volume or anything, the small display between the dials with extremely limited features and literally a one button interface, an FM radio that is the worst performing i have ever had, and a usb play interface that is cumbersome and fiddly to the point of being dangerous, i could go on for hours.

    Also given the huge acres of plastic making up the trim and dash there is astonishingly little storage. and the beeps, oh $diety the beeps, that car beeps for every damned thing.   there would have to be some radical changes before i would go near a mitsubishi again.

     

  • #40877 Reply

    Mike 700
    Participant

    Forget the flat cap, pipe and dog in the boot image, my Four Cross Country Volvo’s were the best – a D5 engine linked to a geartronic auto box with Sports mode and paddles is the business!

    I notice that the XC60 R Design D5 was on Motability for a while, but I didn’t qualify then, but I had the very same car in Cosmic White with black & beige leather for 3 trouble free years – fabulous!

    I now have a 1.2 litre CVT Qashqai, with lots of kit on it as standard, and I would recommend this car to anyone on Motability – not a Volvo, or a BMW, or a German car, but a really excellent, economical and reliable family workhorse!

    • #40889 Reply

      Justin

      I had been considering checking out the Volvo XC range when the time came to renew, but now that time is here and all the Volvos except the V40 have vanished off the motability list.  Anyone know what happened there ? are they just all to expensive now ?

       

    • #40918 Reply

      Timerfirst

      <p style=”text-align: left;”> Is the quasquai economical in 1.2 CVT? Probably around the same as the 1998 Volvo V70 2.5 TDI that I drove briefly when I was working as a taxi driver,but started to suffer agonizing hip pain,in 2013. I drove my then 15 year old son to a disco one night and on the way home, the box wouldn’t engage top gear. I went out to go to work the following morning,and there was a giant pool of oil to greet me,lol. Long story short, couldn’t find a gearbox,so it was back to the trusty 369,000 mile Peugeot 406 😂</p>

  • #40888 Reply

    Grjstaples

    My mazda tribute bought in 2004 now ha 88k on the clock only been serviced had a replacement stainless exhaust when the original rusted trough in 2008

    Has the clitch and cambelt teplaced at 79000 because i figured that was better thsn having it fail otherwise necer missed a beat and was always a reliable mode of transport

     

  • #40903 Reply

    Trev
    Moderator

    Been a member of this forum for a few months now……. or does it just seem that long? lol Anyhow, can’t recall anyone mentioning a Vauxhall before, this thread pops up and wham! it’s mentioned more than any other make, although mainly on the dislike of things.

    For me, Like: Renault Megane petrol, Dislike: Focus Diesel & Quashqai Petrol, Like: Seat Leon St Petrol… that’s my dislike sandwich. 🙂

    • #40919 Reply

      Timerfirst

      Incidentally, Trev,I drove a Renault 19 for 10 reasonably trouble free years as my spare car when I was taxiing, when I was supposedly “fit and well”! We had an omega on our fleet,it was an automatic with the 2.5 6 cylinder BMW diesel unit. When my first severe bout of lower back trouble eased a bit,my boss rushed me back to work and let me drive the omega! Later that year we got a 1.7tdi cavalier. My boss told me to test drive it,and I was climbing a hill in 3rd gear,and such was the torque, that it went into 5th gear without a struggle 😊

  • #40908 Reply

    jeff stevens

    Best car has to be my ford capri 3.0 manual TJX 209R wish i had put it in the garage and left it there.the rust in the bulkhead killed it,

    Worst car a Hillman Imp .though there is one on ebay in the barn find section i keep looking at lol

     

  • #40927 Reply

    BigB

    Like many others I have never been a Ford fan. Vauxhalls I have never been able to get comfortable in and always though them as a sales rep car. Most the German made cars are solid and reliable albeit some marques are expensive for what’s on offer. I have several Hondas and Toyotas over the years and whilst they were never going to set the heather on fire they were all reliable, well equiped, economical and comfortable

  • #40954 Reply

    Rudy Maertens
    Participant

    the thing i love most about Mini is the 48 hour test drive… it gives you a good idea if the car is suitable…

     

    more companies should do this

     

  • #40960 Reply

    tgo
    Participant

    I’ve had many different makes of cars over the year from fords, Vauxhalls, Honda, Peugeot, Rover.

     

    They’ve all got better as the time has  progressed, long gone are the days of your car refusing to start because it’s a bit damp or if you got the choke wrong…

    My Honda Jazz was probably best for a small car as long as you didn’t have to go long, beyond servicing nothing ever went wrong, all it needed was a bit more soundproofing and a 6th gear.

    The rovers were …ok… just a bit, well boring? really

     

    Vauxhall. I’ve had a few vauxhalls, I think they hit their peak early 90’s to early 2000’s, I wouldn’t go near one made after about 2005, nasty things.

    Fond memories of my Mk 2 GTE though, and the 99 Vectra estate 2.5 V6

     

    Ford, I have no issue with Ford, they are what they are and don’t pretend to be something they’re not. I  really can’t fault my current 67 plate Kuga (ok boot could do with being a tad bigger)

     

    I looked at some Germanic stuff around the same time I was looking at the Kuga and the mind boggling array of ‘options’ on anything German is jaw dropping, I swear you could  pay half as much again as the car for the extras…

     

     

  • #41025 Reply

    The little taffia

    The worse car, the first brand new car I ever bought, was a Vauxhall Astra GSi. Dreadful doesn’t come close. Broke down the first time with less than 100 miles on the clock. Drank oil like it was going out of fashion. Trim fell off, doors failed to lock and the sunroof would not shut. The alloys discoloured within a year. Vauxhall, never again.

     

    Most uncomfortable car was a Ford Focus which had more rattles than a branch of Mothercare, must have been put together by six year olds. Best Ford I ever owned was a Fiesta XR2i, fun machine. The others including an Escort XR3i and other works Fords were poor. My favourite Ford was a Cougar Coupe, don’t know why as it had the worse autobox I driven and it literally fell to bits in front of my eyes, but I loved it! Sorry Ford your fit and finish is still too poor.

     

    Best car had to be a Honda Civic VTi, the forerunner of the manic Civic Rs. Bullet proof engine with the best manual gearbox I’ve ever driven. Bought it after the awful Astra, just showed the gulf between Japanese engineering and British rubbish. My wife has also had four Mazdas for her business because of their peerless reliability.

     

    As for my Motability experience I’ve found that there is still a big gulf in quality between the German marques and the majority of the others. My present Golf GTD is the best handling car I’ve ever driven, the DSG gearbox is far better than anything fitted to the likes of Ford, Vauxhall and especially the French marques.

     

     

  • #41027 Reply

    Mike

    Totally agree about the dsg box taff best auto I ever had a lot have tried to copy it !!

  • #41031 Reply

    Markymate

    I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m one of the luckiest blokes around.  My German built Vauxhall Insignia tourer has some how got me through 3 years of faultless free driving….Well bloody impressed.

    Hopefully, Skoda is going to carry it on!!

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