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Hi,
My neighbor (forgive the US spelling) has just bought a Tesla Y.
Whilst he loves the car there is a serious incoming infrastructure problem.
He has a drive and has installed a charge point.
He has an imprinted concrete driveway.
Our local council has recently granted the building of several hundred houses next to our estates.
This has resulted in the need to upgrade our local power sub station.
Due to the increase in joe public buying EVs (not surprising in current eco, political, world war climates).
The power demand on our woefully inadaquate supplies is overwhelming,
My neighbor has now been told that in order for him to receive an adaquate power supply he has 2 options.
1. Dig up the street (and his drive) and connect a suitable supply from the sub station.
2. Have overhead cables installed to provide an adaquate power supply.
Has anyone else experienced this, because if so, then this is the ‘tip of the iceberg’ and the future of EVs is damned.
P.
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Nothing new. Your neighbour does not need to do anything. It is up to the DNO to do the work.
It is nothing to do with EV,s either.
When you add another housing estate, you need to upgrade everything. Is it an EV warning that your neighbour has to connect to a new drainage system because of the new estate? Somehow its the EV, that caused this? You seem to blame EV,s for everything..
The future of EV,s are damned you say?
You seem to forget that ICE vehicles are damned and will be banned in a few years. Despite the spike in EV sales worldwide because of the Gulf crisis ..lol 😆 😆 😆
This really does sound like your ‘neighbour’s’ and, I guess your supply was inadequate to begin with, probably a developer saving money by putting enough power to each house to just about cope with a normal requirement but should anyone have anything that draws a little more then it’ll instantly become a problem. Upgrading the connection seems more like a future proofing idea than a problem.
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The decision whether your electricity supply requires upgrading is made by the DNO, not the council. The DNO is responsible for assessing the necessary upgrades to ensure that the electricity supply can meet the demands of your property and other users on the network. Ultimately the DNO will contact you and arange the necessary work.
If the estate being built and not council owned, the building company will arange for a new supply connection directly with the DNO.
A new substation to cope with extra demand, can mean the connection can require an upgrade of the network. This is so that the connection can be made without affecting other customers service, happens 95% of the time. The other 5%, the DNO can upgrade the whole substation network depending on demand.
The best option is to contact your DNO for advice, of what they are planning to do.
Interesting.
When I ordered my EV I knew nothing about. Looping.
All I knew was we had a 100amp fuse in our meter box. But 2 cables going into it.
Oh dear.
The chap from the DNO arrived one day and stated the house to our left gets it’s power from my meter cupboard. Plus the main power line is on the opposite side of the road.
Months later the DNO crew arrived, dug up the pavement over the road, a trench across the road and a trench across the garden of the house on our left. Connected a new cable into the mains over the road. The next day, connection day. They connected next door directly to the electric mains. All that was needed was too remove the cable that suppyed power to next door from our meter cubard.
About 20 minutes later 2 very embarrassed DNO chaps informed me. Your house does not supply your left next door neighbour.
Sorry but the last 3 days we have basically cut the power to your left neighbour and then reconnected them!
Two months later the right house neighbour got the same treatment. Big hole in pavement, trench across the road, drive dug up. Traffic lights. Very impressive to see.
So now 3 houses in a row are all on there own electricity from across the road.
Apparently our estate of detached houses was built in 1994/1995 and the DNO checked. Every other house is looped.
I checked on line
This is my whole point. Never mind DNO or whatnot, the point is you may end up having your drive dug up to supply an adaquate power supply for your brand new shiny EV!
This is my whole point. Never mind DNO or whatnot, the point is you may end up having your drive dug up to supply an adaquate power supply for your brand new shiny EV!
Again absolute nonsense.
I had my ev charger fitted and nether the drive or the garden was dug up.
They moled the hole from the pavement to the front of the house UNDERNEATH the drive abd garden.
Hopefully you have been educated, and you have managed to absorb the information.
But best guess no amount of new info is gonna get through that skull.
In most cases its 2 or 3 (if your unlucky) holes dug: 1) in pavement and 2) one in drive wher the meter box/cupboard is located. Everythin is then put back to how it was without any cost to the customer.
My DNO done the detector thing and marked out the power lines on the pavement, the water and gas main as well on both properties.
That should be done as a matter if course?
But then again, it was not the DNO that done the groundwork, but their contractor, who was actually very very good. I guess they did not want to cut through other services while digging up the pavement
CAT scanner
Getting very clever these cats nowadays!
Wonder if mine could get a job with Northern Powergrid?
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
CAT scanner
Yes indeed. The one i used many decades ago couldnt pick out gas lines.
But the modern ones pick up everything.
CAT scanner
Yes indeed. The one i used many decades ago couldnt pick out gas lines. But the modern ones pick up everything.
Genny or signal generator and CAT (cable avoidence tool).
LOL
It’s nice to see someone putting some effort into EV scaremongering, rather than using the usual myths. 🤣
I ordered my first EV in 2021. My house was looped with my neighbour and I had a 60a main fuse.
We also didn’t have a decent earth connection as we were getting a kitchen fitted and their sparky was a bit horrified at not getting an earth & made an emergency call to the DNO who came out, bodged it and said they’d be back. While they were here I said I was getting an EV and they arranged to sort that too.
Roll on a couple of weeks, they turned up, dug up the pavement outside my property, ran a new cable in to me and unlooped me, fitted a new smart meter (I asked for it to go on EV tarriffs) & a 100a fuse and fixed it all back up again – the pavement was better after they finished than it was at the start.
Cost to me…absolutely nil. Actually, and weirdly, my electricity bill/use dropped by over £30 a month, so we think we were powering some part of the neighbours leccy for 15 years!
The DNO has to reinstate any damage done to your property – if they dig up a concrete drive they have to replace it with a concrete drive, at their cost. They told me this while they were there and asking me where exactly I’d like the hole in my wall for the cable. I already had a gas pipe on one side of the front door and asked for the same on the other side so it looked symmetrical, they obliged, same type of zinc outer protective pipe and fittings too.
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Nice one Ab,
So, just to be clear, if the DNO have to dig up part of a 5k imprinted concrete drive to make the new supply then you are saying that they will dig up the whole drive and replace it with new one? free of charge?
Nice one Ab, So, just to be clear, if the DNO have to dig up part of a 5k imprinted concrete drive to make the new supply then you are saying that they will dig up the whole drive and replace it with new one? free of charge?
If its cheaper to mole it, there will be no digging any drives.
But yes whatever damage is done its restored.
But AGAIN, they will not dig up an imprinted drive when there is no need to do that. Jeez.
The excavation and reinstatement of the driveway surface will be done to match the style and material of the driveway.
Ukpn unlooped our 1930s house in 2020 phone calls etc were a hassle as it wasn’t as smooth as now but they disconnected next door off our feed and replaced cut out took 2 hours all in Inc getting the cherry picker in the garden.
It really isn’t hassle and you can still charge an EV off a looped supply but you’ll be rate limited until unlooped
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