Luxury cars removed from Motability ahead of budget

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    jojo22
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      Luxury cars removed from Motability scheme ahead of budget

      Luxury cars will no longer be available for Motabiltiy recipients, it has been announced, with the government saying more money will also go to British manufacturers under changes.

      The announcement comes just days ahead of the budget, although it does not appear that the announcement will have any change to government finances.

      https://news.sky.com/story/luxury-cars-removed-from-motability-scheme-ahead-of-budget-13475029

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    • #317925
      Elliot
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        It’s the no coupes or convertibles that seems the most hateful move to me.

        It’s nothing more than pandering to the baying crowd who see disabled people as benefit grabbing scum.

        The stupid thing about all of this is that it saves the taxpayer nothing.

        #317926
        kezo
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          Here’s what’s been posted in one of the Facebook groups: It seems that a problem that didn’t exist has been solved in a way that victimises working disabled people. I still see no reason why it’s ok to have a Vauxhall with an advanced payment of £7,999 but not a BMW. If I was still working I’d be in a group where such cars would be the norm and being disabled shouldn’t exclude me from that. What’s worse, is that I would probably be pushed into a salary sacrifice option, where I’d have a bigger choice of luxury brands with a 40% discount thanks to the taxpayer. I could easily afford the EQB and could well be waiting to see what the new iX3 comes in at when offered by the finance companies. However, I’m not working nor am I able to, so I’m not only making choices of more appropriate cars but it seems certain brands are simply too luxurious.

          Indeed, another half baked decision solving something that never existed. As suggested a £8k Vauxhall is fine, but not one from Alpha, Audi, BMW, MB etc. Any way how did Alpha get it self caught up in all this, yet Volvo doesn’t get mentioned.

          As far as business sense goes on a 3 year lease sales, a £4k BMW will be a a better resales  option than an £8k Vauxhall, that no one in their right mind would pay anyway.

          What isses me off is, there’s no consultation with users  on their wider thoughs.

          I think those who are able to, will vote with their feet and buy or lease.

           

           

           

          • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by kezo.
          #317928
          kezo
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            All the premium manufacturers are now shaded out on the Motability website car search, so can’t be selected. Thought for the day. Will Volvo (who have long aspired to be considered a premium brand) be happy that their cars remain, or unhappy that they aren’t deemed by Motability (or the government- depending on whose pulling the strings) to be a premium brand? 😂

            On the flip side, I bet Alpha are pleased their cars are considered premium😂

            When it comes down to it, they haven’t got a clue on whats luxury, premium or where each brand sits in the market! There’s no consultation with we who lease the vehicles and will see those who can move away from the scheme.

            #317929
            mitch
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              well at least the 3 door mini is still on there so at least one fun option available.

              i can get in and out of the 3 door but not the 5 door.

              next quarter will be the killer.

              an 8k vauxhall is allowed yet a £600 alpha isnt, politicians logic for you.

               

              #317930
              Oscarmax
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                I can foresee an AP cap for the next quarter to keep the press and public happy, and why consult us, as far as they are concerned we get free cars and should be grateful.

                Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                #317931
                on the spectrum
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                  well at least the 3 door mini is still on there so at least one fun option available. i can get in and out of the 3 door but not the 5 door. next quarter will be the killer. an 8k vauxhall is allowed yet a £600 alpha isnt, politicians logic for you.

                  Yes but will the sporty 2ltr petrol still be allowed as in 2026 some say the jcw automatic will return again to Motability but it may not be allowed the polo GTI will that be removed which would be sad as some of us used to be bikers and like sporty choice also it would make the scheme very boring.

                  #317932
                  kezo
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                    How stupid and low intelligence is this as no convertible’s which is british built Mini and only one other Mazda MX5. And as to Luxury cars I never thought myself that Mercedes or BMW or Alfa were Luxury cars perhaps some top of the range which only may mean AMG I think of luxury cars as Rolls Royce high end supercars.Does it now mean that british built top end Minis will no longer be Available or anything top end may be removed which is ludicrous and Anti disability choice so does basic come to mind.

                    They got sterotyped as luxury cars to meet the agenda and it stuck, when any one in the real world would see them as the premium sector, of which Alfa Romeo doesn’t fall into, but Volvo is often considered a premium brand, yet still remains, which clearly proves the deskies really haven’t got a clue!

                    #317933
                    geome1
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                      What they are doing is not logical from the brands that have been removed it was only the lowest models that were available They are playing up to the publics perception that luxury cars are available on the scheme

                      #317935
                      jojo22
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                        I wish to add a little one off rant for what it is worth

                        I feel I may as well tag it onto this thread as good as any other

                        Future VAT to oneside

                        This is only imo and it is mainly based on my own gathering together of and it is my own interpretation based in part on a series of deliberate and timely released snippets of DWP age old water testing past/present press releases

                        This is a small stage/mobility cars/ on the scale of things to come this is imo nothing

                        its water testing/setting the scene in readiness

                        I strongly suspect on the scale of things this is just the start of bigger things to come

                        This .Gov Motorbility interference imo as we all know is nothing to do with saving money for the public purse it is simply a imo first stage Blair backed think tanks spring board tactic aimed to win over any gullible Joe public

                        Its a imo an age old prep tactic in tandem with certain press so that ( yet again) the public are brought onside before revealing the imo already determined spring Timms report and the HUGE cuts it imo will bring

                        The clowns expect to be taken seriously even though you have the chancellor of the exchequer in one breath Dissing and ignoring the OBR future predictions whilst at the same time having Timms gearing up his report so that it meets the OBR future predictions ( So cuts)

                        imo the already determined Autumn 2026 timms stitch up will imo not only be looking to tighten the actual PIP eligibility criteria but there also may well be imo a tighter award criteria for the higher rate of the mobility component and also the daily living component,

                        I also suspect that in conjunction the add on benefits of having the daily living component will be put under the spot light

                        They will imo (This is their actual remit/goal imo ) also be looking at cutting the monthly PIP Daily Living payment amount

                        As always time will tell but what we do know right now is that any future changes may very well affect those who have already won their awards

                        3/3 {The Review will consider how recommendations might be applied to
                        reassessments for people already claiming PIP to ensure it is fair and fit for
                        both new and existing claimants. }

                        The review’s terms of reference were updated on October 30

                        https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/690215c7918e1f940b3cf7f6/timms-review-of-pip-terms-of-reference.pdf

                        They are coming back for a second bite at the apple having failed the first time and now that all their MPs have since had a N0 10 one to one breakfast invite and a talking to imo

                        When you take into account their pretence at past engagment and how that attempt failed/was foiled

                        Recent changes to the Terms of reference

                        Gag clauses for the selected review participants

                        Big Pharma MP backers looking to be repaid

                        What could go wrong?

                        Rant over and remember its just imo

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        #317936
                        wmcforum
                        Which Mobility Car
                          ……. the polo GTI will that be removed which would be sad as some of us used to be bikers and like sporty choice also it would make the scheme very boring.
                          Removed on the 15th November!
                          #317937
                          Rene
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                            What is far right in people wanting transparency? Too many people get benefits just for claiming they cannot work due their mental state. But they have enough mental state to go on the TV? The whole system must be reshuffled. If Liebour wanted, they could get out and provide a clear and concise message that Motability scheme offering very expensive car with unlimited AP would be better for the treasury’s coffin. But they’re spineless, led by pro-palestine, pro-trans pro-whatever-you-want but the needs of the majority of the British people.

                            He doth protest too much.

                            Way to address absolutely nothing of what has been said and argue millions of miles past the actual topic.

                            Here’s a hint. This isn’t about immigrants, nor jews, nor, in fact, eligibility. This is about “free luxury cars”, as peddled by and to ignorant morons. You know, the people complaining that disabled people drive BMWs. Disabilities of any kind.

                            PS: no one mentioned “far right”. I said ignorant right-wingers, but the shoe quite clearly fits.

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                            #317939
                            on the spectrum
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                              One word not allowed.

                              #317940
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                                ……. the polo GTI will that be removed which would be sad as some of us used to be bikers and like sporty choice also it would make the scheme very boring.
                                Removed on the 15th November! You are on the ball your right although in 2026 the model is being deleted due to Polo GTI EV.
                                #317941
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                                  Yes also the Mini Convertible has been deleted  as well also Audi is no more as the others join the Exiled manufacturer’s looks very strange many disappeared in grey on Motability website never seen it before so silly knee jerk reaction to blatant disability discriminations on false information.

                                  #317942
                                  on the spectrum
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                                    Believe it or not there are disabled motorcycle riders out there with missing limbs I know they are not on motability but due to not being the right wing newspapers leave them alone as they fund themselves.The disabled bikers Association did some time back want bikes put onto motability and that could mean 3 wheeler car licence automatics?

                                    #317943
                                    Spyder
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                                      What is far right in people wanting transparency? Too many people get benefits just for claiming they cannot work due their mental state. But they have enough mental state to go on the TV? The whole system must be reshuffled. If Liebour wanted, they could get out and provide a clear and concise message that Motability scheme offering very expensive car with unlimited AP would be better for the treasury’s coffin. But they’re spineless, led by pro-palestine, pro-trans pro-whatever-you-want but the needs of the majority of the British people.

                                      He doth protest too much. Way to address absolutely nothing of what has been said and argue millions of miles past the actual topic. Here’s a hint. This isn’t about immigrants, nor jews, nor, in fact, eligibility. This is about “free luxury cars”, as peddled by and to ignorant morons. You know, the people complaining that disabled people drive BMWs. Disabilities of any kind. PS: no one mentioned “far right”. I said ignorant right-wingers, but the shoe quite clearly fits.

                                       

                                      Spot on Rene- he’ll gladly drive around is a blue three wheeler by the sounds of it. Thats coming…. The right whingers are not only happy intimidating foreigners but also want us back in blue mobiles

                                      #317944
                                      fwippers
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                                        The removal of these so called luxury brands plus the coupe/convertibles does not come as a surprise and should keep the focus off the scheme for a while. I would imagine these changes will have put to bed the VAT argument too, at least in the short term. As it stands there is still a wide range of cars available, sufficient to satisfy everyone, almost everyone. The 50% British built is just an ambition.

                                        #317945
                                        Spyder
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                                          The removal of these so called luxury brands plus the coupe/convertibles does not come as a surprise and should keep the focus off the scheme for a while. I would imagine these changes will have put to bed the VAT argument too, at least in the short term. As it stands there is still a wide range of cars available, sufficient to satisfy everyone, almost everyone. The 50% British built is just an ambition.

                                           

                                          Naive to say the least; their bloodlust will continue, mark my words. The next pricelist will be extremely different!

                                          • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by Spyder.
                                          #317947
                                          on the spectrum
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                                            Are they not going to cause availability problems unless Mini gets its finger out to produce orders quicker as lack of choice in some makes will cause longer waiting than there is now.

                                            #317948
                                            fwippers
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                                              The removal of these so called luxury brands plus the coupe/convertibles does not come as a surprise and should keep the focus off the scheme for a while. I would imagine these changes will have put to bed the VAT argument too, at least in the short term. As it stands there is still a wide range of cars available, sufficient to satisfy everyone, almost everyone. The 50% British built is just an ambition.

                                              Naive to say the least; their bloodlust will continue, mark my words. The next pricelist will be extremely different!

                                              We shall have to wait and see. From a political perspective, I would not expect to see any more major changes this side of a general election.

                                              #317949
                                              wmcforum
                                              Which Mobility Car

                                                Motability buy 300 000 vehicles a year, if 50% British built is achieved, 150 000 vehicles will be split between the Nissan Juke, Nissan Qashqai, the new Nissan Leaf (good car), the Mini (small one) and the Toyota Corolla.  The JLR cars will not be joining the Scheme. The Nissan Qashqai is the 3rd best selling car in the UK, 35k sold to date this year.

                                                From a business perspective it seems a little odd to show your hand in such an overt way, surely when it comes to pricing negotiations with these models the power is with the seller.

                                                 

                                                #317950
                                                on the spectrum
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                                                  Also on slightly different thing has anyone seen the BYD’s being destroyed  in china due to major rust so bad they are falling apart within a year due to lack of Quality control in the factory one car I would not choose. Also a lot of software problems on chinese EVS Mg had the MG4 problems where you had to look underneath to see if the cars were damaged some have had bad dents. You cannot beat old school cars perhaps we should buy our own choice of cars that are reliable and simple to use.

                                                  #317952
                                                  aljohno
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                                                    What is far right in people wanting transparency? Too many people get benefits just for claiming they cannot work due their mental state. But they have enough mental state to go on the TV? The whole system must be reshuffled. If Liebour wanted, they could get out and provide a clear and concise message that Motability scheme offering very expensive car with unlimited AP would be better for the treasury’s coffin. But they’re spineless, led by pro-palestine, pro-trans pro-whatever-you-want but the needs of the majority of the British people.

                                                    He doth protest too much. Way to address absolutely nothing of what has been said and argue millions of miles past the actual topic. Here’s a hint. This isn’t about immigrants, nor jews, nor, in fact, eligibility. This is about “free luxury cars”, as peddled by and to ignorant morons. You know, the people complaining that disabled people drive BMWs. Disabilities of any kind. PS: no one mentioned “far right”. I said ignorant right-wingers, but the shoe quite clearly fits.

                                                    Clearly he is a far right nut job. To say that this government is pro Palestine is the biggest joke of the year. He must believe everything that Farage says.
                                                    Remember folks that before the Nazis exterminated the Jews they practiced on the disabled both physically and mentally.

                                                    #317953
                                                    Spyder
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                                                      What is far right in people wanting transparency? Too many people get benefits just for claiming they cannot work due their mental state. But they have enough mental state to go on the TV? The whole system must be reshuffled. If Liebour wanted, they could get out and provide a clear and concise message that Motability scheme offering very expensive car with unlimited AP would be better for the treasury’s coffin. But they’re spineless, led by pro-palestine, pro-trans pro-whatever-you-want but the needs of the majority of the British people.

                                                      He doth protest too much. Way to address absolutely nothing of what has been said and argue millions of miles past the actual topic. Here’s a hint. This isn’t about immigrants, nor jews, nor, in fact, eligibility. This is about “free luxury cars”, as peddled by and to ignorant morons. You know, the people complaining that disabled people drive BMWs. Disabilities of any kind. PS: no one mentioned “far right”. I said ignorant right-wingers, but the shoe quite clearly fits.

                                                      Clearly he is a far right nut job. To say that this government is pro Palestine is the biggest joke of the year. He must believe everything that Farage says. Remember folks that before the Nazis exterminated the Jews they practiced on the disabled both physically and mentally.

                                                       

                                                      Pro=Palestine- he’s out of his mind!! Starmer couldn’t be more pro-isreely if he tried.

                                                      #317954
                                                      Jojoe
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                                                        There discussing this on Radio 2 at the moment, it’s a phone in.

                                                        Enyaq EV

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