Home charger….who finances it …Motability or dealer

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  • #259893
    papillon
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      Hi,

      Just wondering if anybody knows who pays to have the home charger fitted.

      I see that some bmw dealers are offering a free home charger or a £750 credit charge card to customers but not to Motability customers.

      Obviously, if Motability finance the home charger anyway, then bmw are not out of pocket if they still offer the credit charge card to Motability customers, which they offer to regular customers

       

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    • #259899
      Tam
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        The free home charger or £750 credit is for retail sales only

         

        The free charger is paid by motability for notability customers only (its only done once)

         

        just 2 different types of promotions

        #259916
        papillon
        Participant

          Which Mobility Car Forum

          Hi Tam,

          the question was why, as it doesn’t cost bmw any more for motability customers to receive the same offer, should motability customers not be eligible for the bmw credit charge card.

          As you will see from a post on the motability forum, this member has received the £750 credit charge card from the dealer.

          Bear in mind that the fitting of a home charger does not cost bmw , as it is covered by motability;

          yasir247Participant

          Hi all,

          ordered i M sport in Portimao blue with the pro pack..

          dealer has said as I don’t want a home charger I’d receive £750 credit for public charging (first elec car) has anyone else heard of this?

           

          #259943
          kezo
          Participant

            @papillon

            Dont believe everything you hear.

            BMW offer/s and T&C’s

            Option 1:

            A complimentary standard Pod Point 7kW Home Charger with standard installation

            Option 2:

            £750 public charging credit for your BMW Charging account

            1)  Home charger and charging credit offer available for Retail customers who order an all-electric BMW vehicle between 1 October and 31 December 2023 (subject to availability). Selected Business customers may also qualify for this offer – please ask your local BMW Retailer for details on eligibility.

            2) Vehicles must be registered and delivered by 31 March 2024.

            3) Subject to availability. Your BMW Retailer will be able to advise you on lead times for our all-electric vehicles.

            4) The 7kW Universal Solo 3 Smart Home Charger will be supplied and installed by Pod Point (BMW is not the supplier of the Home Charger). Standard installation is included in the offer – typically 90% of customers are eligible for standard installation. Pod Point will charge for any additional work required. The Home Charger warranty and installation is subject to Pod Point’s terms and conditions.

            5) Home Charger installation can be arranged between the customer and Pod Point. Home Chargers must be installed by 31 March 2024.

            6) Customers requesting the Tethered Wallbox, will need to pay Pod Point the incremental cost above the standard offer.

            7) In the event that a customer cancels their vehicle order between Home Charger installation and vehicle delivery, the customer will be charged the cost of the Home Charger and installation.

            8) *£750 Charging Credit is limited to a single BMW Charging Contract and is valid for 36 months after activation. After 36 months, any remaining credit will be lost. BMW Charging Card allows customers to access multiple charge point operator’s networks visit for full list https://bmw-public-charging.com/web/bmw-gb/map.

             

            #259944
            papillon
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              Hi Kezo,

              Yes I have seen the t&c’s from bmw but the question I posted was;

              I see that some bmw dealers are offering a free home charger or a £750 credit charge card to customers but not to Motability customers.

              Obviously, if Motability finance the home charger anyway, then bmw are not out of pocket if they still offer the credit charge card to Motability customers, which they offer to regular customers

              thanks

              • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by papillon.
              #259962
              Tam
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                Which Mobility Car Forum

                Hi Tam, the question was why, as it doesn’t cost bmw any more for motability customers to receive the same offer, should motability customers not be eligible for the bmw credit charge card. As you will see from a post on the motability forum, this member has received the £750 credit charge card from the dealer. Bear in mind that the fitting of a home charger does not cost bmw , as it is covered by motability; yasir247Participant Hi all, ordered i M sport in Portimao blue with the pro pack.. dealer has said as I don’t want a home charger I’d receive £750 credit for public charging (first elec car) has anyone else heard of this?

                 

                 

                It does not really matter why, its just up to them, many manufactures will run campaigns targeting different types of customers, Retail sales provide the largest profits, as motability and other fleet schemes will have less profit per vehicle, that’s “why” I suspect its limited to retail sales

                #259974
                David M
                Participant

                  How do they have less profit? I see on the receipt that motability pay full price which is likely more than many retail buyers.

                  #259979
                  Tam
                  Spectator

                    How do they have less profit? I see on the receipt that motability pay full price which is likely more than many retail buyers.

                     

                    Motability pay heavily discounted prices for the vehicles.

                     

                    what you see in the dealership is not what motability pays.

                    #259986
                    David M
                    Participant

                      Strange, what I saw in the dealership was a receipt?!

                      #259995
                      Tam
                      Spectator

                        Strange, what I saw in the dealership was a receipt?!

                         

                         

                        Not strange at all, I’ve explained what you see in the dealership is not what motability pay.

                        some people will be given a sales order or a new vehicle invoice, but that’s just an internal document

                        #260001
                        kezo
                        Participant

                          The BMW Edrive 35 Sport has a retail price of £50,000. Latest data suggests it will hold ont0 47% to 60% of its original prices after 3 years. Meaning it would be worth £30,000 if held onto 60%

                          As a scheme customer AP plus sacrified benifits amount to £16,575 over 3yrs. If after 3 yrs Motabilty sold it for £30,000, (which is unlikely as most go to auction) they would have lost around £4,500, which doesn’t allign with the millions of pounds they are in profit each year and the CEO certainly wouldn’t be receiving the pay packet he does!!

                          Dealer’s offer more of an admin role to Motabilty and its customers and get paid a small amount (arond £400) for ordering a vehicle on behalf of Motability, along with other small amounts for servicing (ontop of sevice cost), checking vehicle at end of lease for GCB eligability.

                          This is a couple of years old but, still very relevant on how Motability works.

                          https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/everything-you-ever-needed-to-know-about-motability/273895

                           

                           

                           

                          #260020
                          papillon
                          Participant

                            Hi,

                            as per my original post;

                            Hi,….. I see that some bmw dealers are offering a free home charger or a £750 credit charge card to customers but not to Motability customers…..

                            Obviously from bmw’s perspective, of course they wish to make as much profit as they can.

                            I think some people may question their integrity/ethics as to make this offer to customers but not to motability /disabled customers. 🙂

                            From a perhaps pedantic perspective,  bmw could take the stance that you are a motabilty customer but my Vehicle Order refers to me as the Customer and motability as the finance company. All paperwork and emails from bmw refer to me as a bmw customer.

                            According to the Cambridge dictionary; ‘retail is the activity of selling goods to the public’. One could argue also, that as ‘options’ are purchased directly from the dealer, then you are a bmw retail customer and should be eligible for their offer. 🙂

                             

                            #260024
                            kezo
                            Participant

                              I think some people may question their integrity/ethics as to make this offer to customers but not to motability /disabled customers.

                              There is nothing stopping you as a disabled person, entering into a BMW dealership and buying a new car directly from them and be eligable for a free Pod Point charger. There is no question on their integrity or ethics, as the option is open to you as a paying customer regarless of any disability!

                              Should my son or daughter question Motability’s ethics, just because they aren’t eligable for a free Ohme charger as Motability customer are!

                              Why haven’t you taken Motability’s offer of a free Ohme charger & standard install?

                               

                              #260028
                              Ioniq
                              Participant

                                Not really much point in discussing it.

                                If Papi wants £750 from BMW, they should just go right ahead and claim it.

                                Good luck ordering a Motability BMW and enjoy the dosh…😄😄

                                #260052
                                papillon
                                Participant

                                  Hi Kezo,

                                  ‘Should my son or daughter question Motability’s ethics, just because they aren’t eligable for a free Ohme charger as Motability customer are! ‘

                                  With respect, perhaps a more accurate analogy relative to this scenario would be;

                                  If your son or daughter were a motability customer …..but were told they couldn’t have a free charger fitted because they were also , say …an Ovo customer.

                                  Obviuosly bmw make considerably less profit on motability business and perhaps cannot justify offering the credit charge card deal to motability customers.

                                  If bmw’s promotion/ advert was ‘ order a new electric bmw and customers receive a £750 credit charge card…..except motabilty members ‘

                                  Which is the reality. I wonder how the public would respond.

                                  Interesting point; With price discrimination, a seller charges customers a different fee for the same product or service.

                                   

                                   

                                   

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                                  #260055
                                  kezo
                                  Participant

                                    Why not email BMW UK, asking for a detailed explanation on why Motability customer aren’t included in the offer/s?

                                    What are you trying to gain over Motability/Ohme charger?

                                    Do you have Solar and the reason you want BMW’s offer of a Pod Point charger or

                                    You want BMW’s offer of £750 charger credit and a Ohme charger from Motability?

                                    #260235
                                    papillon
                                    Participant

                                      Hi Kezo,

                                      It appears you’re approaching this discussion from the ‘something for nothing / entitlement culture’.

                                      If you read my post carefully you may understand that this discussion is regarding the advertising /sales promotion aspect and bmw’s position;

                                      Motabilty provide the homecharger offer free to any of its members and finance it, regardless of the dealer. It is separate to any other promotions the car dealers may offer.

                                      Many dealers will have their own promotions again not tied to motability and finance / operate those independently of motability.

                                      Bmw have advertised ( independent of motability ) to all their customers purchasing an electric bmw, a credit charge card to the value of £750 etc. Now, apparently some bmw dealers say the offer is not available to motability members.

                                      As I previously pointed out, this is perhaps what is referred to as price discrimination;

                                      ‘With price discrimination, a seller charges customers a different fee for the same product or service.https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price_discrimination.asp

                                      N.B. Recently some motabilty members / bmw customers have posted that some bmw dealers have indeed honoured their offer;

                                      Eg. I picked my BMW I4 Today and I received the BMW card free subscription with bp pulse and Ionity 12 month offer & the £750 credit for public as a substitute as i could not get the home charge installed. Hope this helps.👍

                                      I suppose you could say again  ‘don’t believe everything you  hear’

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                                      #260246
                                      kezo
                                      Participant

                                        Eg. I picked my BMW I4 Today and I received the BMW card free subscription with bp pulse and Ionity 12 month offer & the £750 credit for public as a substitute as i could not get the home charge installed. Hope this helps.

                                        I suppose you could say again  ‘don’t believe everything you  hear’

                                        Hi papillon

                                        When this was posted, the poster had only been registered on the forum for a matter of a couple of hours and has since become deregistered not long after posting. I forget the name it was posted under but, its now showing as amonymous.

                                        As an administrator on another forum, I regularly check what I would considor an out of the ordinary post and how long they have been registered on the forum. I would normally then check theirIP address but I haven’t got that ability on here.

                                        There have been a few posts recently that seem not to fit, so I guess you could say don’t believe everything your hear lol.

                                         

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