Have You Been In A Queue For Fuel

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  • #164900 Reply
    MickC
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    First time for me yesterday at my secluded Waitrose run Shell Fuel Station,here in Sheffield central.

    I go to this one every week at the same time as i do a shopping trip,i really did not expect to see cars waiting about 15 all in line,there was no std unleaded available just V-power,and just 3 pumps giving out Derv.

    Is this country on the verge of going t1ts up.

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  • #164954 Reply
    Elliot
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    Yes you do need to fill up otherwise you risk running out of fuel No good having the moral highground with an empty tank and no knowledge of when you can get more fuel The government had more than 2 years to get prepared So its not Brexit its bad planning

    I have half a tank of petrol. I could fill up but I haven’t as I don’t need a full tank. I wonder how many of these people topping up their tanks really need to.

    #164956 Reply
    Intranicity
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    Thought it was funny that it takes longer to fill a car up with petrol than it does to charge an EV these days

    Yes, I feel sorry for ICE owners, it’s been crazy round here, Swindon is devoid of fuel. I haven’t suffered from range anxiety since getting an EV, but I would have now if I’d got an ICE!!!

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    #164957 Reply
    fwippers
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    I passed two fuel stations on the way to a hospital appointment, normal queues, must be the exception.

    #164959 Reply
    Menorca Mike
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    Will there be fuel Thursday or Friday next week ?

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    #164962 Reply
    Glos Guy
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    I agree with others that this was a complete non-issue stirred up into a problem by the media and individuals on social media. The media are desperate for stories on the lorry driver shortage (which has been going on for years) and a few days ago 8 petrol stations (out of 8,543) had supply problems due to delayed deliveries. The media jumped on it, inflated the issue, everyone panics and, before we know it, we have shortages all around the country! There was no petrol shortage, but now there will be!

    As for queues, it’s not widespread. We are currently on holiday on the Isle of Wight. I filled up in the garage in our village Thursday night the day before we left. Just one car in front of me. Topped up in Asda when we arrived on the Isle of Wight yesterday afternoon. Had to wait no more than 3 or 4 minutes. We’ve driven past numerous petrol stations today (inc 2 different Morrison’s) and no queues at all. Free pumps and no shortages. One of our daughters filled up in Asda at Cribbs Causeway Bristol (a massive one) at 4.30pm yesterday. Barely any queues. Paid at the pump (as I always do) and was fuelled and out in less than 5 minutes. Yet listen to the media and watch the pictures of the stations with long queues and you could be forgiven for thinking it’s like that everywhere.

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    Wigwam
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    It is in the Bournemouth area. According to the local press many petrol stations are out of fuel and closed, including the two Sainsbury sites I usually use.

    #164965 Reply
    sif

    Brexit is a main contributor. Even paying higher wages doesn’t magically create a workforce, that takes years. In the past we had access to a massive labour pool. Now we do not. Wages aren’t created in a vacuum. Higher drivers wages because of a Brexit induced shortage will only fuel inflation and lead to higher pay for all drivers. That in turn will put up all wages since we measure ourselves against others. More inflation. It’s not just drivers, every sort of job that could be filled by European workers is gone now. Why are there no shortages of fuel in NI…why because it has EU rules. Here’s drinking to a Brexit Christmas, shortages of everything, at least the hard up, hit by universal credit cuts wont be tempted by shelves of goodies, didn’t we just give hundreds of millions to a US company? Perhaps the poor should call themselves bankers, then the cuts would be reversed. No one can accuse the Tories of not looking after their friends. Even the Mogg household will have a farthing for Tiny Tim.

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    Glos Guy
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    Leaving politics aside (as people can argue anything based on their political allegiance or hatred), I would like to know what HGV drivers actually earn. I’ve heard loads of sob stories that they are only earning circa £20-25k, but the BBC said the other day that the ‘average’ HGV driver earns £50k and one milk distribution company is paying their drivers £78k. You’d think that people in much lower paid jobs would be stampeding to become lorry drivers if these figures are true?

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    Glos Guy
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    It is in the Bournemouth area. According to the local press many petrol stations are out of fuel and closed, including the two Sainsbury sites I usually use.

    That’s the point I’m making though Wigwam. The press are highlighting those where there’s problems implying that it’s everywhere. The local press in Bristol are doing exactly the same. Reports of closures and shortages, cameras outside these petrol stations with queues or empty pumps etc. Yet I have several family members there who got worried on the back of these reports yet managed to fill up their cars with no issues at all. The tragedy is that the sensational media reporting will become self fulfilling. Problems that didn’t exist will now occur!

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    Wigwam
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    The local press here just report what people call in and tell them. It stands in for news here!

    The problem started when BP announced to the press they couldn’t deliver to a handful of sites because their contractor didn’t have drivers.  Maybe they wanted the reaction in the media and maybe they expected the public to panic buy and maybe they wanted the government to respond to it by relaxing the rules to let foreign drivers in. Just maybe…

    #164971 Reply
    Wigwam
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    Fuel tanker drivers always used to be very well paid. My nephew years ago left the army with whatever specialist ticket is needed to drive fuel tankers, and considered getting a job doing just that. The problem is the work is where the fuel distributers are, and they are concentrated in few places.

    #164972 Reply
    Littledave.

    I needed to. I had less than a gallon left and I need to be able to take my disabled wife out and be ready to take my terminally ill son to hospital at any time.

    My daughter was down to fumes and needed to be able to get to work.

    Not everyone is able to sit at home and not worry about fuel.

    #164973 Reply
    ChrisK
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    Local Sainsbury’s here were bled dry this morning so everyone have moved on and my daughter went shopping this afternoon and when she came out of the store there was a tanker filling the tanks so she drives straight in, fills up and straight back out again in a few minutes.

     

     

     

     

    #164975 Reply
    Bobby brown

    57.95 pence per litre is fuel duty and then you pay 20% vat on top of that

    If you are a government short on cash then it is a very quick and easy way to increase your cash flow

     

    And we all fell for it

    #164976 Reply
    Intranicity
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    57.95 pence per litre is fuel duty and then you pay 20% vat on top of that If you are a government short on cash then it is a very quick and easy way to increase your cash flow And we all fell for it

    There’s ill informed, conspiracy theorists and plain stupid…  Not sure where this comment fits, but in the end, all that’s happened is lots of people have filled their fuel tanks, and maybe used 4-5 days supply in a day.  Not quite sure how this increases the cash flow, especially as now lots of panickers won’t need to fill their fuel tanks for a week or two?

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    #164981 Reply
    Bobby brown

    Its not ill informed conspiracy nonsense

    I just made it up
    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Plain and simple just googled uk tax on fuel</p>
    And then made the rest up

     

    #164982 Reply
    Bobby brown

    <p style=”text-align: left;”>I’m no expert but I would say there has been a flow of cash from peoples bank accounts to pay for the fuel and part of that fuel is duty paid to the government</p>
    And I’m pretty sure that sales have increased therefore I can safely say that casflow has increased all be it temporarily

    #164983 Reply
    Tim

    You’re assuming those forecourts which have sold out can replenish their supplies any sooner than they would expect to under normal circumstances. Faster sell through doesn’t equate to profit if you can’t get more product to sell.

    People panic buying are absolute muppets.

    #164986 Reply
    Bobby brown

    That is a sweeping statement I’m sure some doctors and nurses and fireserice to name but a few teachers carers have all bought fuell so they dont get caught short I’m not sure I would call them muppets

     

    The media do have a lot to do with it

    Unfortunately as soon as I saw it on the BBC news on Friday at 15:00 I knew what was going to happen and so I imdiately went to the nearest petrol station and filled up from 1/4 tank to full

    With no queues and then watched mayhem I  really did not have a choice

    Oh thats right I did but I really don’t like queues

    The next purchase is  small generator to provide electricity for heat as its going to be  a cold winter my advice would be to get some candles / touches now while they are cheap and plentiful I remember the 3 day week and the power going off in the evening

    And it won’t take much for our electricity supply to fail

    What is your plan B ?

    As you are aware the shelves can empty pretty quickly

    Active or passive

    I know which one I would choose

     

     

    #164987 Reply
    Bobby brown

    Lets look at the evidence

    The British broadcasting service said the British Petroleum petrol stations were finding it difficult to deliver fuel due to a shortage of drivers due to the British government decisions

     

    Now all I did was join three dots…….coincidence…..

    Notice it was BP and not another fuel provider that was struggling…….

    So ladies and gentlemen we are going to be in for a bumpy winter of shortages and hyper inflation we are going to see financial issues with large companies going bust and the knock on effects best to sit tight and stock up on basics adjust your expectations as we aren’t going back to normal anytime soon

    What ever normal was

    And remember father Christmas does not exist so just watch the adverts and the media and the public go completely insane and people getting stressed and overspending on junk from China killing the planet in the process butts ok if you have an electric car because you are environmental conscious

     

    Please…… Capitalism is the problem as every company across the globe will try and increase their market share to sell more do more next year and that just burns through more resources that are finite

    So there is a fundamental problem that unless tackled we are all doomed but don’t forget its your fault you need to do more recycle more pay a congestion charge and if you have a smart meter your electricity bill is about to change and you will pay a different rate depending on what time you use it welcome to surge pricing taken from Uber

     

    Look at just eat or deluveroo

    They have managed to become the middle man for all takeaways in the UK because people are too lazy to order direct and pick it up themselves.

     

     

     

    #164988 Reply
    Confusicated
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    ‘Bobby’,

    You are starting to sound like a disinformation spouting account.

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    #164989 Reply
    Glos Guy
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    ‘Bobby’, You are starting to sound like a disinformation spouting account.

    I tend to ignore the incoherent ramblings of those with political axes to grind, but Bobby has raised a very serious point. He says that Father Christmas doesn’t exist. I am devastated 😭

    #164990 Reply
    Tim

    Shirley he can’t be serious?!

    #164991 Reply
    Confusicated
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    Yikes! I missed that! How dare he suggest such a thing!

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    #164993 Reply
    Bobby brown

    Ok I admit it

    You are right its all nonsense

    And I love the last comments made me chuckle

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