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March 16, 2018 at 11:26 am #44731
Model: Hyundai Tucson 1.7crdi premium
Transmission: automatic 7 speed DCT
Colour: White sand
Cost: ordered Q3 £2199 (with £200 discount) no added cost options,
Option/Extra’s: Beige leather interior (no cost option on the premium)
Mpg: still breaking in (600) around town I’m getting 34/on a trip 47 (still improving was 31/43) mixture of driving styles due to breaking in
Pro’s: seating/driving position is great, heated seats, full electric adjustment including lumber and front edge of seat, steering wheel adjusts in/out up/down. Gear box is smooth The rear and front sensors are great detects rear cross traffic, blind spot, the projection cornering light are brilliant. Overall fantastic roomy/ comfortable and responsive car once set up auto lights wipers etc is simply get in and drive.
Con’s: haven’t come across any issue with the car yet, a little niggle is having to press the parking sensors on as it resets on occasions. Hyundai doesn’t offer extras it would be nice to be able to add if I had a choice electric tailgate/push start, and memory seats would be nice.
Recommend?: 100% worth a look, and a test drive.
August 1, 2018 at 4:29 pm #57559
Nice looking car Wigwam, I like the light interior, enjoy.August 1, 2018 at 4:33 pm #57560
These new x1 also having updated screenAugust 1, 2018 at 7:32 pm #57593
Very nice indeed Wigwam. IMO Mineral Grey with Oyster leather is the best colour combo for the X1. I like the wheels also, but suspect they will be a sod to clean! Enjoy. I’m sure that it will be a joy to drive.August 1, 2018 at 9:20 pm #57612
Lovely wigwam we have cream leather interior and it makes huge difference to the feeling of space when inside.August 1, 2018 at 9:32 pm #57615
Yes, I’ve always felt that as well. Our new Tiguan with cream leather looks and feels twice the size inside of the old one, which was a sea of black!August 1, 2018 at 9:37 pm #57616
Very nice Meowsters. Magnetic is the nicest grey on the market IMO. My daughters Focus has it. I prefer it to the metallic greys on my wife’s VW Tiguan, the one on my other daughters Hyunda and the Xirallic Sophisto Grey on my BMW. As you can tell, we like grey cars!August 3, 2018 at 1:31 pm #57706
Couldn’t post on the forum for a few days there but seems to be allowing me to again.August 3, 2018 at 1:41 pm #57707
Been no reported problems our end whisky,
If you ever get a problem like that again pop us an email and we can check our end
Glad to have you back
Mota History - Nissan Qashqai Ford Focus Seat Leon ST Mazda CX-5August 3, 2018 at 2:29 pm #57713
Thanks. Will do, Trev.August 11, 2018 at 1:46 pm #58329
Pic of the X1.August 11, 2018 at 1:58 pm #58331
Very nice enjoy!August 11, 2018 at 2:05 pm #58333
Beautiful fwipperie. I have the same wheels with a mineral grey exterior. The mineral white looks stunning!August 11, 2018 at 2:30 pm #58339
Very fine looking car. Even grass becoming green again. I hope much pleasure derived.August 11, 2018 at 5:27 pm #58341
Very nice cars there Meowsters, Wigwam and fwipperie.
Happy motoring.August 11, 2018 at 5:42 pm #58344
Gorgeous car wigwam, looks so luxurious – sorry for the delay in posting, somehow missed it!
How is she settling in?
Mota History - Nissan Qashqai Ford Focus Seat Leon ST Mazda CX-5August 11, 2018 at 5:44 pm #58345
Lovely looking car fwipperie, love those alloys
Mota History - Nissan Qashqai Ford Focus Seat Leon ST Mazda CX-5August 11, 2018 at 7:22 pm #58347
Lovely looking car, fwipperie. Love that new car feeling!!August 11, 2018 at 7:34 pm #58349
Well done fwipperie great choice.August 11, 2018 at 10:21 pm #58357
Very nice fwipperie. Mineral White suits the car. Hope that you enjoy it.August 13, 2018 at 9:11 am #58435
The car looks terrific fwipperie, really smart looking in the white with those alloys, enjoy.August 16, 2018 at 1:42 pm #58650
Wheel Porn…August 16, 2018 at 2:06 pm #58657
Mota History - Nissan Qashqai Ford Focus Seat Leon ST Mazda CX-5August 20, 2018 at 10:48 am #58902
Well, blow me down! The good condition bonus cheque arrived….Yippee. No sign of the excess mileage demand from Motability yet, probably arrive this week. All going well with the S-Max, just over 1100 miles so far, economy 44.5mpg.
Whispa and wife passed their training course with flying colours and she is now terrorizing our wee terrier into submission – she is 18mths old, he is 10 years, so her boundless energy and persistence has worn him out. And she stole all his toys – the greedy madam.
The Grand Picasso was exported the week of the handover, we got a letter from the DVLA saying it was leaving the country via an exporter in Cardiff and were we happy with that.August 20, 2018 at 11:13 am #58903
I got a feline the car is going to be purrrrfect for you meowsters, looks great, good choice.September 4, 2018 at 5:29 pm #59822
Our Car: Kuga ST-Line X 2.0TDCi (180), PowerShift (automatic)
Colour: Ruby Red
Extras: ST Line Styling Pack
We picked her up on the day the 2018 heatwave broke, so after 7-8 weeks with no rain whatsoever she was ditched within 6 hours of delivery. Typical.
Why did we choose this Model / Options?
We had a bit of a checklist, mostly nice-to-have, some essential
4wd? Nice – I work all over and if I can’t get to work, don’t get paid. Our first Motability was a Qashqai+2 ntec, auto 4wd. During heavy snow storms about 5 years ago, I was one of only a handful of people to get onsite and get paid, for several days – the extra pay more than made up for the extra cost of the 4wd over the 2wd 1.6.
Auto? Essential – after three years of a manual Volvo, my shoulder is wrecked (not caused by the car, but heavy steering and shifting exacerbates the problem).
Crossover? Nice – I also have a dicky knee, and the Volvo required me to twist my knee sufficiently that I often got a short sharp stab of pain getting out of the car. My wife, the car’s keeper (she’s the one on PIP) is also starting to get out more with work and is taking a lot of gear with her, so a bigger boot was required but we don’t need a cave. The Kuga’s boot, apart from being pretty big, also has almost no lip, so it’s easy to just slide big cases / boxes in and out.
Privacy glass? Nice – my son, autistic and deeply private, sits in the back.
Torquey Diesel / Performance? Essential – we cover anywhere between 25,000 to 30,000 miles a year, doing that in an underpowered vehicle is a chore.
Good stereo? Nice – the missus is a music fan (well, I wouldn’t call it music, but that’s yet another argument waiting to happen…)
Looks right? Essential – I have autism and utterly obsessed with detail, so whilst a car doesn’t have to be the best looking car in its class, it has to look “right” for me.
HID lights? Essential – we do a disproportionate percentage of our mileage at night, and having had several eye-ops myself, I personally need (it’s not a medical requirement) better lighting.
Heated seats? Nice to have
Panoramic Roof / Sunroof? Nice to have, but by no means either a deal-breaker or maker.
Clearly, the Kuga does not meet all of these requirements – for example the stereo is absolutely abysmal. We actually specified the uprated stereo (with rearview camera) but on a subsequent trip to the dealer got to sit in another Kuga with the uprated stereo. There was an absolutely minute difference, so slight it definitely was not worth the extra £250 (over the cost of the rearview camera on its own), so we managed to cancel the camera / stereo as the order was still in a preliminary state. If you want the camera, get that on its own, don’t bother getting the stereo. If you want an uprated stereo, see if you can sneak a bass tube into the boot – although I’m sure RSA (insurance) would probably have something to say about this.
The Kuga has come in for a lot of stick on this forum because of performance, which I slated as Essential – main example being the really slow 0-60 time. This is a red-herring. The Kuga has a 10bhp deficit over our outgoing V40, as well as being about 200kg heavier. It was always going to be a slower car. However, its biggest handicap is its gearbox – it’s using a previous generation 6sp DSG, whilst many rivals have 7sp DSG or even 8sp traditional (Torque Convertor) ‘boxes. This translates into a slow uptake off the lights, but once you get going, it feels surprisingly quick. Indeed, we actually tested an XC40 190bhp 8sp auto (diesel) and the Kuga 180bhp 6sp powershift back-to-back and whilst on paper the XC40 absolutely tans the Kuga’s hide, being well over 2s quicker to 60, the Kuga actually felt to be the faster car. That’s my personal opinion – people who’ve driven both specs may feel free to differ.
The other thing that irked me was having to pay extra for options that are still inferior to standard kit on other cars, for example, many vehicles in this class now come with LED lights as standard, and we had to pay extra just to get HID. Uprated stereo is extra (we didn’t bother), but even then, the uprated stereo is still poor compared to almost every other manufacturer’s standard offering.
So why did we choose this over, say, a Tucson, X1, Ateca or Karoq? Simple – apart from doing all we needed, we liked it the most. Let’s face it, if we just all ordered what was perceived to be the best car in its class, then we’d all be driving the same car.
What is it like to drive?
Let’s get the bad out of way first
The Sync3 satnav / entertainment system is an abomination. Just plugin your Android, let Amazon Music handle the entertainment, and Waze do the navigating on the Kuga’s large screen.
My main issue with Sync3 is the lack of a jog-dial or other physical control – I’m not very good at using voice-control, I struggle to talk and drive (my particular “brand” of autism means I need to plan what I’m going to say next, so I struggle to speak naturally), Android Auto seems to cope better with my spoken requests than does Sync3, although that still gets things wrong. Using the touch screen is quite tricky, as in a comfortable driving position the screen is at extreme arm’s length – yeah, I know we shouldn’t fiddle with sat-nav or stereo whilst driving, but everyone does it. Using Waze, this is much less of an issue.
There is a nasty click / tick from the self-cancelling mechanism when spinning the steering wheel whilst the indicators are on – I’m interested to know if anyone else has this issue? I’ve not had time to question the dealer about this yet.
Self-parking does an adequate job, but is so slow that if you’re capable of parking it yourself, you really should do so – you’ll do a better, faster job. I only tried it a couple of times just to try it out – reversing into an unmarked gap that was about 1 ½ cars width seemed to confuse it, and it did a 9 point turn before I was in the space (and I gave up there), but the system still wanted me to keep going. Maybe a 1 car gap would make it work better.
The good? Almost everything else.
Driving position? Clichéd commanding view, etc…
Handling is great – it won’t win any prizes but it has the ability to, as long as you’re not driving it like a hooligan, for you to pick a line and the Kuga will just follow it. This in part is what won it for me. I can drive any car but normally take about 2-3 weeks before I feel fully comfortable with the way it behaves, the way it parks, the way it stops etc. But with the Kuga, before I’d gotten to the 3rd junction on the test drive, I felt like I’d been driving one for years. It didn’t feel like a new car – not because it was old and tired (it only had a few hundred on the clock, after all), but because it was just such a natural car to drive that I felt deeply familiar within 5 minutes.
It really is difficult to put into words, but, it just feels so easy. Maybe this is why they’re popular with the, erm, more senior generation.
As mentioned previously, unless you’re the type that collates all the performance details of the Motability stock in a spreadsheet then selects a car based purely on numbers, then you just won’t have an issue with the way it goes. You know who stomps on the gas in an SUV when the lights turn green? *********, that’s who.
Refinement wise, I found it to be much quieter than expected. There are some weird engine vibrations when coming to a stop but nothing unpleasant, and soon got used to it. Wind noise, tyre noise and engine noise are all substantially reduced compared to our outgoing V40, which we did find particularly surprising given that Ford is supposedly a class or two below Volvo.
I’m getting to work in a calmer mood than before, not feeling as frantic, perhaps because the Kuga isn’t as “exciting” or “engaging” to drive as our last car, but that’s not to say it isn’t fun. It’s an extremely enjoyable car to drive, just in a more relaxed way.
I love the it looks, the way it moves and the way it goes, and that it does all of this without me feeling like I’m even trying. And in Ruby Red with black wheels, it looks absolutely amazing.