Excess Mileage Support announced

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  • #372426
    dayskipper
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      Not exactly straightforward is it? Does it mean that for the first 3,000 miles over the 10,000 mile allowance you can’t get any support?

      #372428
      Avatar photoFalcon1
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        I think it says that for the first 5000 miles you pay 10p per mile and then anything above that is free? Its really confusing me!

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        #372429
        BigDave
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          1. Not exactly straightforward is it? Does it mean that for the first 3,000 miles over the 10,000 mile allowance you can’t get any support?

           

          From first glance, the 3000 miles is included within your annual 10k miles (so within your annual 10k it is 7000 ‘leisure’ miles and 3000 work/school/hospital etc miles).

          Then the next 5000 work/hospital/school miles per year  is 10p per mile.

          Then the next 5000 work/hospital/school etc miles after that per year  are free.

          Then from there on it is 25p per mile for any miles over 20k per year.

          But you do have to apply in advance for these work/school/hospital etc miles for these rates to apply  or else presumably all excess mileage is 25p per mile.

          #372431
          kdwolf
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            In essence because you work,  you have been taxed twice now: the usual HMRC plus £1,500 for the duration of your lease by Motability.

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            #372434
            BigDave
            Participant

              Am idly wondering if the Motability Foundation will give grants to cover the excess work/hospital/school mileage fees in hardship cases?

              Albeit I cannot see this mentioned anywhere.

              However £1500 in excess mileage charges at lease end plus an AP for the next vehicle maybe a leap too far for some.

              #372435
              Elliot
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                Will be interesting as to what they do about collecting excess mileage fees from people that can’t afford to pay them.

                At least going private I know exactly what I will be paying as I can fix the lease to the mileage I require.

                #372438
                ianp
                Participant

                  How does this work with our son who is autistic. Over the time we have been on the scheme we cover about 20k miles each year, this has nothing to do with work/hospital etc. but due to his condition. He will not stay in and we have to drive him out and about to visit the shops and places to keep him visual simulated. Once this has been done  he is happy and contented Otherwise what do we do with him. Keep him locked in. The scheme has been good to us and I fear for him and us when the contract ends in 2028. Let’s hope they see sense. And change this.

                   

                  #372439
                  gazzagaz
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                    Completely confused…I do 6200 miles a year just for work…. What does this actually mean in real terms…. Maybe just me but no idea what’s going on now

                    #372440
                    Southamman
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                      Go find another lease where you don’t get charged for excess mileage, those with company cars also get charged for excess kileag3.

                      You can’t have it both ways, either y8u want to be treated lije anyone else, 8r you want to be treated “special’ as if you are better than those who work and can’t afford to lease a new car every three years.

                      You moaning will push the government to make p8p jeans tested

                      #372441
                      gazzagaz
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                        I’m not moaning in just asking for clarification as I do work and I do over 6kn just for work I can’t get a bus when if I could they’re so infrequent or don’t run at all …we all know you get excess milage charge but not at what motability have set it at

                        #372443
                        Woodpecker
                        Participant

                          Clear as mud that is …jeez.

                          Essentially, 10k-20k miles you pay extra 5p per mile. Which is good, as that is well below the private sector

                          20k miles+ is the sting. At 25p/mile, it is brutal.

                          For those that do in excess of 10k miles, you will have to do your sums and see if it is cheaper to leave the scheme, and move elsewhere. If you dont like to move, its going to hit your pocket….hard.

                          But yes, if 25% of members indeed do a lot of miles, its going to get expensive. It will not be so bad if you are employed, you could cover the increased cost. But for those with no income, it is going to be really difficult.

                           

                          #372445
                          kezo
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                            I’m not moaning in just asking for clarification as I do work and I do over 6kn just for work I can’t get a bus when if I could they’re so infrequent or don’t run at all …we all know you get excess milage charge but not at what motability have set it at

                            best ignore him!

                            #372446
                            gazzagaz
                            Participant

                              Indeed

                              #372447
                              Chris1975
                              Participant

                                This is excellent news because disabled people definitely don’t have enough form filling, document providing and evidence supplying in their lives already.
                                One good thing is, that at least it’s very clear cut. If you were using the scheme for the purpose of making motoring one less thing to worry about (which the scheme has done brilliantly for years) then this should definitely telegraph that the scheme is no longer fit for purpose. For in the last few months, it has gone from magnificent simplicity to hopelessly trying to explain things through the most complicated infographic I’ve ever seen. Tremendously sad.

                                #372449
                                ianp
                                Participant

                                  I don’t mind paying for the excess mileage we do, but why 25p, I don’t know of any leasing company that charges that amount,

                                  the formula they have come up with for this just adds to the confusion

                                  #372451
                                  BigDave
                                  Participant

                                    Completely confused…I do 6200 miles a year just for work…. What does this actually mean in real terms…. Maybe just me but no idea what’s going on now

                                    Well, going by their formula, and assuming you use your 7000 miles per year on, for want of a better term ‘ social domestic & pleasure’ journeys, you get 3000 miles for work free and then 3200 at 10p per mile which is 3200 x £0.10 = £320 per annum in excess mileage charges.

                                    However, doesn’t your employer pay for your business mileage (excluding commuting)? Or if self employed claim it back via tax as a justifiable expense?

                                    #372452
                                    Woodpecker
                                    Participant

                                      @gazzagaz

                                      If you are only doing 6200 miles per year, you have nothing to worry about.

                                      Its only when you breach 10k miles/year that complicates stuff.

                                      Even then its 10p mile up to 15k. The jump from 15k to 20k is free….allegedly

                                      But that adds 500 per year if you do 20k per year.

                                       

                                      #372453
                                      kdwolf
                                      Participant

                                        Clear as mud that is …jeez. Essentially, 10k-20k miles you pay extra 5p per mile. Which is good, as that is well below the private sector 20k miles+ is the sting.

                                        Depends on the deal in private sector,  I think: we only pay 3.9p per extra mile for a car we took in March this year.

                                        Sent from a mobile device.
                                        Apologies for briefness and spelling mistakes.

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                                        #372454
                                        gazzagaz
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                                          6200 miles is just work millage… probably close to another 1k for doctors hospital etc

                                          #372456
                                          Doughnut
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                                            I understand life more than that announcement  !

                                            #372457
                                            Avatar photoFalcon1
                                            Participant

                                              With the help of Gemini AI, I put a scenario of someone travelling 16000 miles a year- higher than the 10,000 limit  because of work.

                                               

                                              Here is the response which is clear but detailed

                                               

                                              Under the new Motability rules, the standard annual mileage allowance has dropped to 10,000 miles per year. Since you cover 16,000 miles, you are looking at an overage of 6,000 miles. Without support, the new excess charge is 25p per mile, which would cost you £1,500 a year.

                                              However, because you use your car for work (employment), you can apply for their Additional Mileage Support.

                                              Here is how their calculation works for a work-based application:

                                              1. The 3,000-Mile Threshold
                                              Motability assumes your standard 10,000-mile allowance should cover everyday life plus your first 3,000 miles of work travel. Because of this, support only kicks in for work-related miles above 3,000 miles per year.

                                              2. How the Discount Scales
                                              If your case is approved, they look strictly at your total work miles and reduce the excess rate for those miles using a two-tier system:

                                              The First 5,000 Extra Work Miles (3,001 to 8,000 miles): The excess charge drops from 25p down to 10p per mile.
                                              Anything Beyond That (8,001+ work miles): The excess charge drops to 0p per mile.
                                              What this means for your 16,000 miles
                                              Your exact savings depend entirely on how much of your 16,000 miles is purely for work.

                                              For example, if 8,000 miles of your total are for commuting or work business:

                                              The first 3,000 work miles are covered under your standard allowance.
                                              The remaining 5,000 work miles qualify for the discounted 10p rate instead of 25p.
                                              The rest of your personal miles that spill over the 10,000 cap still cost 25p.
                                              If your work mileage is even higher—say 12,000 miles of your total:

                                              3,000 miles count as standard.
                                              5,000 miles are charged at the 10p rate. (£500 in total)
                                              The final 4,000 work miles trigger the 0p rate (entirely free excess miles).

                                              2024 Skoda Enyaq estate- 85x Sportline plus in Race Blue. Extras: Supernova 21 inch wheels, Maxx Pack, Transport Pack, Heat Pump and Pano Sunroof.
                                              Ordered 31/10/23, Delivery 27/3/24

                                              #372458
                                              Woodpecker
                                              Participant

                                                Clear as mud that is …jeez. Essentially, 10k-20k miles you pay extra 5p per mile. Which is good, as that is well below the private sector 20k miles+ is the sting.

                                                Depends on the deal in private sector, I think: we only pay 3.9p per extra mile for a car we took in March this year.

                                                My excess mileage is 16.3p  yours is very cheap!

                                                #372461
                                                belfast4
                                                Participant

                                                  Digital mileage correction places will be very busy.

                                                  #372462
                                                  Doughnut
                                                  Participant

                                                    Digital mileage correction places will be very busy.

                                                     

                                                    Indeed. However, if anyone does go down that route they need to be careful as some tools like the OBDSTAR X300M cannot always access some of the modules. In some BMWs, the millage is held across several modules. What will be popular are the Mileage Blockers.

                                                    #372473
                                                    kdwolf
                                                    Participant

                                                      And now is the real question: how to prove you do work from the office 5 days a week?

                                                       

                                                      Is Motability going to ask the employers to produce a letter? How self-employed person,  who works with a company for years is going to prove?

                                                      It’s another nonsense.

                                                      Sent from a mobile device.
                                                      Apologies for briefness and spelling mistakes.

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