[MFillingham]

When you look at the EV5 up close it feels like a full SUV, yet it’s supposed to be Sportage sized.  Heralded as what the Sportage would be if it was electric it’s a great family car.  When you get in one, especially if you’re used to the Sportage, it’s huge inside.  It’s all the benefits an EV has over a similar sized car but in big scale.  For years we’ve been told that when you get in a Leaf you can just feel the extra space over a hatch with simulate outer dimensions.  The scale has always been crossover SUV versus crossover SUV, then the EV9 took us to a whole new world but there’s not many 7 seater SUVs to compare with.  For the first time we now have a very popular family SUV in the Sportage and a BEV competitor from the same manufacturer built to be the same size.

So, looking at retail prices, I fully expected the EV5 to be somewhere around the high 40k area and more for the better equipped models.  Imagine the surprise when I note the EV5 GT Line is £43k.

Now, we know retail prices aren’t often reflected when it comes to Motability but (and it’s a rather hopeful but) given KIA bring new models in at a high price, is it really overly optimistic to hope these will be dropped in April?

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[kezo]

You could have the whole shebang on the EV3 for less

[DJ Kav]

kezo wrote:

You could have the whole shebang on the EV3 for less

Yeh I tried the EV3. It’s really great, but my daughter didn’t like the lack of space in the rear. She likes to spread out like a spider in the back. She needs an arse warmer. Like some others on here, I like the space to move my arms.

What won the Enyaq with my daughter was the pull up rear blinds on the windows. Also, the cavernous space in the rear, and her own climate control.

But I would change all that if the EV5 GT Line S came on for a decent AP.

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[kezo]

DJ Kav wrote:

kezo wrote:

You could have the whole shebang on the EV3 for less

Yeh I tried the EV3. It’s really great, but my daughter didn’t like the lack of space in the rear. She likes to spread out like a spider in the back. She needs an arse warmer. Like some others on here, I like the space to move my arms. What won the Enyaq with my daughter was the pull up rear blinds on the windows. Also, the cavernous space in the rear, and her own climate control. But I would change all that if the EV5 GT Line S came on for a decent AP.

The GT Line has rear arse warmers and your into electric front seats heated (arse and back), but not cooled, but you still miss out 360 camera and blind spot camers.

The privacy glass seems much darker compared to the Sportage/Tucson, but unlike in the latter two, you miss out on window blinds. You also get everest double glazing all round (all trims), which is only at the front in Tucson Sportage, which I find helps quite a bit actually

I also find the same trims have different kit across the 3, 4 and 5?

Unfortunately, I don’t like the big box little box screens in VW or incase of the Enyak, big box little half moon display. I don’t know why, but the little half moon drivers display in the Enyak puts me off and the entertainment screen, I would prefer how some manufacturers do them, rather than it looking like small tv sitting on a shelf. Overall the twin screen layout seems to favour more. I must have OCD or something😂 The only other thing is the 85x AWD is only available at low speed and I don’t get that, as your not always at 20mph max in bad weather and AWD or 4×4 helps arond me especially not getting stuck going up a steep mountain hill..

[MFillingham]

kezo wrote:

You could have the whole shebang on the EV3 for less

I really could.  The question is how much emphasis do I put on electric seats and boot plus HUD over space?  At the moment only my wife and I have sat in each, I found the EV3 a little claustrophobic with my right arm in the door, the EV5 we sat in was the GT Line and was incredibly comfortable with all the space I need.

 

There’s really not a huge amount between the Air and GT Line but what’s missing could be quite significant:

Folding wingmirrors doesn’t seem like much but parked outside I might as well put a RAF logo on the passenger’s side one and see who knocks the damn thing off, my bet is Amazon.

Electrical seats.  Not a major issue as long as they’re comfortable BUT when the Mrs finally passes her test, she’s going to want to be able to drive it too, which means moving the whole seat forward, down and that’d be much easier if it would have a memory seat function.

Power Tailgate could be an issue as there’s always one of us complaining the back hurts and this one is quite a sizable lump to pull.  I’m not sure if it’s  a deal breaker though, we’ve lived long enough without one…

Smaller wheels seem a better idea to me, as said, softer ride could easily make up for a few other sins given the state of our roads after several storms.

Body coloured door mirrors over gloss black, actually seems like the upgraded version isn’t an upgrade.  Remember the days when body coloured mirrors were the premium option?

Automatic handles are a bonus, they’re very much like the HI5 ones where you press one end for the other to pop out, difference is when it’s automatic you can see when the door’s unlocked.

Solar Glass Windscreen, I guess it’s a boiling car in summer which can be a problem.  We’ve had one of those and it made getting into the car quite an ordeal on the 3 hot days.

Headlights with adaptive beam, not having had them, I don’t think I’ll miss them although they do make the front look better.

There’s a few cosmetic things that make zero difference to me, like gloss black plastics outside and alloy pedals and the 4 spoke steering wheel.  As said, the grey headlining might be better than black.  The ambient lighting looks nice but won’t be the end of the world if it’s missing.  V2L I’ve used maybe 4 times and it’s the same with the phone wireless charger, there’s sockets and buying a metre long cable won’t bankrupt us.

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[kezo]

Its a matter of sitting down and thinking what you really need for day to day driving and what the extra AP gets you on the GT Line and is it really needed day to day.

Manual mirrors arent that difficult to fold yourself.

The tailgate a belt strap or sure theres a free aid on the list.

Will Mrs F be fine driving a car of that size or would an EV3 or similar be better with obvios sacrifices?

[MFillingham]

I’m so glad I’m not ordering within the next 3 weeks, there’d be a lot of really stressed head scratching going on.

The two will need to be driven.  The GT Line will have to drop significantly to even remotely be justifiable let alone affordable.  The EV3 has everything but space the EV5 really questions what I’ve gotten used to over what we really absolutely need to have.

Here’s the problem explained in one simple comparison, the EV5 is 2cm shorter and 1.5cm narrower than the Ioniq 5.  The ‘little’ hatchback is actually massive, much larger than it looks.

I’ve had large cars for a long time, except for the MG and I felt the lack of space in that.

 

I think the next 8/9 months will be very interesting, options changing quicker than ever and prices being anybody’s guess.

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[MFillingham]

So, today we went shopping and ended up next door to the KIA dealership.  Popping in was a fair trade for being dragged around all them shops😉

 

We sat in an EV3 Air as they didn’t have a 5 Air.  Having found a really helpful chap we discussed all our concerns about the missing features we’re usually looking for.  The EV5 tailgate is mostly composite plastics and glass which means manually opening and closing a powered tailgate was surprisingly easy despite the motors adding resistance.  We also tried an EV6 tailgate which is heavier and that’s strangely light to deal with.

Sitting in the EV3 confirmed that while it’s a decent size I couldn’t satisfactorily sit in there and drive country lanes or reverse around sharp corners, I’d be banging my elbow until the air was blue.

That extra space in the EV5 was incredible.  It’s not a huge amount but I’d have to try to bang my elbow and could easily sit with all the space I’d possibly need.  The mandatory heated seats and steering wheel work just as effectively as in the Hyundai even with cloth trim.

There’s every chance they will drop in price, although there’s still the July issue to navigate.

Current favourite is the EV5 Air, especially if it can get nearer to parity with the EV3 GT Line S pricing.

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[kezo]

The heated seats, I find are great on the mocrofibre cloth in the N line S Tucson and infact you feel the warmth quicker. The cooled seats are much weaker, as unlike leather the fibres trap the holes making them less effective.

It’s a shame the drivers seat isn’t electric, but not the end of the world I guess. Other than that, I think the Air gives a good level of kit compared to other manufacturers, which has always been a strong point for Hyundai/Kia.

The Atto 3 Evo will be interesting if it joins in time. It sit between the 3 and 5, remarkably similat in size to the Tucson with more room being electric.

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