E10 petrol launches in September

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    Brydo

    E10 petrol is up to 10 per cent ethanol and will be available at UK fuel stations from September 2021 as part of bid to cut CO2 emissions

    E10 petrol – a more eco-friendly type of petrol containing up to 10 per cent ethanol – will be available at fuel stations across the UK from September 2021 with the aim of reducing CO2 emissions.

    The Department for Transport (DfT) announced the launch of E10 petrol following a consultation with motorists and the automotive industry. E10 – which is a mixture of standard petrol and ethanol made from materials including low grade grains, sugars and waste wood – is expected to cut CO2 emissions on UK roads by as much as 750,000 tonnes per year. This is the equivalent to taking 350,000 cars – or all the cars in North Yorkshire – off the road.

    In addition to helping the UK reach its goal of net zero carbon by 2050, the launch of E10 will also boost the country’s biofuel industry, with the materials needed for E10 refined in the UK.

    The E5 petrol currently on sale at British fuel station forecourts contains no more than five per cent ethanol – E10 contains twice as much but this could cause problems for some cars. All petrol cars built from 2011 onwards are E10 compatible, but the DfT has previously estimated that 700,000 vehicles in the UK are not.

    The European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA) says, for example, that all BMWs can use E10, but warns this is not the case for every marque. Almost all Mercedes models can use E10, but the C200 CGI and CLK 200 CGI made from 2002 to 2005 cannot. Nevertheless, E10 has been sold in Europe – most notably in France and Belgium – alongside E5 for a number of years.

    Motorists whose cars aren’t compatible with E10 will still be able to purchase E5 petrol in super-unleaded form, with the DfT confirming the UK will maintain a supply of this fuel.

    Grant Shapps, secretary of state for transport, commented: “We’re going further and faster than ever to cut emissions from our roads, cleaning up our air as we accelerate towards a zero-emission transport future.

    “Although more and more motorists are driving electric vehicles, there are steps we can take to reduce emissions from the millions of vehicles already on our roads – the small switch to E10 petrol will help drivers across the country reduce the environmental impact of every journey, as we build back greener.”

    The consequences of running an incompatible car on E10 can be severe, as James Elliott, editor-in-chief of Auto Express’s sister title, Octane, explained: “These fuels make short work of rubber and fuel lines in older cars. In fact, it has happened on one of my own classics when a section of fuel line perished prematurely and started spewing petrol everywhere. I was lucky that it was spotted and could be made safe on the spot, but I am concerned that not everyone will be so lucky. Any fuel damaging seals and lines that prevent fuel from reaching the hottest parts of the engine is a serious fire risk, and a potential danger to classic cars and their owners.”

    Which cars can’t run on E10 petrol?
    Previous research by the RAC Foundation indicated 28,000 Volkswagen Golfs, 18,162 Mazda MX-5s and almost 16,000 Nissan Micras in the UK are unable to run on E10.

    A spokesperson from UKPIA (UK Petroleum Industry Association), which represents major fuel suppliers in the UK, advised: “If an owner of a classic or cherished car is uncertain of their vehicle’s compatibility with petrol containing more than 5 per cent ethanol and is unable to obtain guidance from the vehicle manufacturer, they can avoid potential difficulties by using the super grade.”

    What is ethanol?
    Ethanol is a form of alcohol, and the ethanol in E5 and E10 petrol is bioethanol, meaning it is a renewable fuel derived from growing and fermenting crops such as sugar, wheat and maize.

    Increasing the ethanol content in petrol brings a reduction in carbon dioxide because ethanol produces less CO2 than petrol when burnt, and because the crops grown to produce it absorb CO2 from the atmosphere.

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    Clipped wings

    Ok, I’m a bit cynical and did A level chemistry 51 years ago, but ethanol, C2H5 OH in my day, burns and the C still makes CO2. Very marginal benefit to the planet vs other Carbon fuels. Most of the CO2 gains peddled are from photosynthesis of the crop in the field eg sugar beet, only in leaf for part of the year. The tractors planting, spraying and harvesting the crop use diesel. The lorries transporting it to the processing plant use diesel. The fermenting/distillery at the plant will require a large use of energy and create CO2. Then more lorries
    Where the claimed benefits really fall apart is that the field would almost certainly grow other crops instead of beet for this specific use. They would also absorb CO2, wouldn’t they?

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    @Clipped wings

    It’s all smoke and mirrors when you look at it that way.

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    Plus the fact that cars running on E10 are less efficient, produce less power per litre burnt and emit more CO2, all this is done to help growers of corn etc to sell their product and put more tax in the government coffers and sod all to do with helping the climate.

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    @vinaspin  here here

     

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    In my humble opinion just a stealth way of removing older vehicles off the road, fortunately the Toyota Aygo Platinum which we gave to the daughter a couple of years ago is fully compatible with E10.


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    #141047 Reply
    Intranicity
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    Ethanol in fuel also causes loads of problems in light aviation, Rotax engines are designed to run on MoGas (Unleaded fuel) but the ethanol is causing problems with some fuel tanks and also the floats in the carbs and seals, it’s actually pushing some to start using AvGas (Leaded fuel) so actually going in the opposite direction.

    One of the biggest issues is actually knowing what the fuel contains, as it varies so much from supplier to supplier and even by tanker load.

    Bad move all round

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    Wigwam
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    But it’s not a problem because we can still use E5 by paying through the nose for super unleaded.  What a good wheeze..

    #141070 Reply
    Clipped wings

    But Shapps knows best. Smart motorways, air bridge to the Vatican (no airport) unaffordable and eco disaster HS2, new Crossrail trains corroding in sideings and hired drivers on full pay for 3 years, the tunnel from NI to nowheresvill,SW Scotland, aviation in tatters, the list goes on. One form of transport remains a triumph, the one way procession of inflatables across the channel.

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    Clipped wings

    For anyone interested in our so called eco petrol additive, Countryfile this evening had a report on sugar beet. No mention of it ending up as a fuel additive, but about a blight affecting crops Yellow something, that reduces the foliage and thus produces a much lower yield by absorbing much less CO2. There goes the eco spin. It gets worse. Panicked by the much reduced yields, the government have allowed the use of a banned insecticide that kills bees. Neonic ? So much for for your eco boasts, Doris! Grow food to burn in ice cars, and wipe out our endangered bees in the process. Not to worry, they are guided by the science! Obama did the same with corn to fuel those millions of V8s produced in Detroit, and the Brazilians are decimating the CO2 absorbing Amazon rainforest to plant palm oil. Same in Borneo etc. It is not going to end well, imho.

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    Clipped wings

    Neonics =neonicotinoids, banned by the EU for killing bees.
    government says beet doesn’t flower so no bees. Environmentalist says weeds such as dandelions attract many bees. Government says spray with herbicide to kill the weeds. E10, the wonder additive.

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