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I’ve noticed we have more posts relating to electricity tariffs and setting up of EV home charging procedures and was wondering if there was enough interest to set up a permanent sticky.
There is a fair amount of money to be saved charging from home and getting the correct tariff could save more.
I don’t really have much expertise in the topic but I’ve noticed there are those who’ve been using a number of tariffs and actually change tarrif between summer and winter so there must be money to be saved for members to go to the bother.
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Sorry if this is the wrong thread but do any of you know if you have to unloop your electricity supply,is that automatically an extra charge when you have a Motability charging point installed?
Sorry if this is the wrong thread but do any of you know if you have to unloop your electricity supply,is that automatically an extra charge when you have a Motability charging point installed?
Unlooping your service, has nothing to do with Motability or their standard or non standard chargepoint installation.
If your service is looped it will be unlooped by the DNO for your area. This will be done for free!
You may find these video’s of assistance.
Just had our Charger fitted today, went with the Ohme Home Pro tethered. From the initial email to install was just over 3 weeks which I was very impressed with.
Need to look at Energy suppliers now as Utility warehouse offer no electric car tariff’s which I found strange, tried to offer a day/night tariff but the date rate was massively inflated and working from home means it would certainly put up my payments.
Just had our Charger fitted today, went with the Ohme Home Pro tethered. From the initial email to install was just over 3 weeks which I was very impressed with. Need to look at Energy suppliers now as Utility warehouse offer no electric car tariff’s which I found strange, tried to offer a day/night tariff but the date rate was massively inflated and working from home means it would certainly put up my payments.
@Daviddec have a look at either Ovo or Octopus. @kezo will guide on this one.
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Current car: Peugeot 308 GT Premium 1.2 Pure tech Petrol.Most EV tariffs are based on a 2 rate tariff, with a cheap “x” hours overnight tariff and a slightly inflated day rate. What makes more difficult, when trying to help someone compare tariffs, is Ofgen set different SVR rates throughout the country.
For example EDF quote me 22.08p day rate and 5hrs off peak rate between 12am 5am at 9p kWh.
Even though 22.08p is a little dearer than the standard variable tariff, by fixing this quarter, you avoid Ofgen’s price hikes over winter, which would still work out cheaper overall.
Then there are companies like Octopus and OVO that have intelligent tariffs for as little as 7p kWh when charging.
If you allready have a smets 2 smart meter installed, it is far easier to switch to another provider EV tariff. If you don’t have a smart meter or have one of the older smets 1 meters, its likely you will have to join their standard variable tariff untill your smart meter is updated or installed before switching to their cheap EV tariff.
I would do some quotes with the main players, Octopus/OVO/EDF/BG etc based on more accurate rates in your area.
I don’t know if @MFillingham @Phaedra would like to add anything better, as they have EV’s and have gone through the process of finding tariffs. If you have solar/battery @Oscarmax would be a good person to ask 🙂
I’ve no direct experience with tariffs as I’m stuck on pre-pay.
When you spend time in EV groups they all talk about a few tariffs, Octopus anytime and rate tracker and an OVO rate. That would lead me to think that these would be the best rates for EV owners. Some have been paid for some low demand times, which means charging, high demand household items were all ran at the same time reducing the monthly bill.
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We are on Octopus Agile for several month even over the winter we have been averaging between 10/11.5 pence a kWh, that includes charging up the PHEV, the only downside with the Agile rate you need to limit your usage between 16.00 – 19.00.
To date this pear January up and til yesterday we have imported 1689.36 kWh cost to date £188.03
For 2023 imported 2971.40 kWh total cost £426.12.
Cheers guys, I had already started looking at Octopus Intelligent Go, I got a referral code for Octopus and should be switching to them on the 1st August. They do seem the best choice going to be weird getting into the habit of putting the washer/dryer on overnight like the grandparents!
The utility warehouse offer of the day/night rate have been included below for comparison, This is in the North East.
Gas
Unit rate: 5.205 p/kWh
Daily standing charge: 29.922 p/day
Electricity
Unit rate (Day): 27.817 p/kWh
Unit rate (Night): 7.014 p/kWh
Daily standing charge: 67.397 p/day
Just ordered an ID.3. our first EV. Will need charging point installed. Is it essential I have a smart meter for this to be done? Or can Ohme connect to a non-smart (dumb?) meter?
Sorry if this has been asked before but cannot find it on here. Moreover. am getting contradictory info from Googling it. Some answers say no not needed, but Ohme’s site appears to say that a smart meter is required.
Anyone know the real answer?
@Tharg You don’t require a smart meter for Ohme to install a charger. Its up to the homeowner whether they want one and what tariff they want 🙂
I’m Leaving Octopus Energy’s EV & Solar And Battery Tariffs (not me its the title of the video)
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Tharg
personally I wouldn’t pay attention to a smart meter as i found it doesn’t recognise off peak though I’ve learned how to do the maths deducting the numbers etc but the smart meter is a waste of time regarding EV use i instead refer to the hub on my EDF app which confirms the use against the Ohme app👍
Thanks for your answers, gents. I shall continue to send in my own meter readings in the (almost) secure knowledge that correct data has been sent and not digitally mangled by some bleeping, flashing box.
I have old style gas and electric meters but intend to change soon as the best deals are available to those with smart meters.
There are a number of different catagory of electricity user, namely those with :-
i) Smart meters
ii) Electric vehicles (split into high and low mileage drivers, full BEV and plug in hybrid)
iii) Home batteries
iv) Home batteries with solar
v) Home batteries, solar with Air Source Heat Pumps (although not so many in this catagory lol)
There may be other criteria but all of the above will influence the best tariff for you, so when looking for the best tariff/supplier to use, giving as much of the above info as possible will help in the info we can give.
@Tharg its great to see you back on the Forum.The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Nice to be back, mate. No only for chatting to you lot on the site. But also for the unqualified, and accurate help our members can give. As you’ll have seen, I have ordered an ID.3 and then had to sort out the whole charging nightmare. Biggest problems were getting accurate data for EV Tariffs and correct advice on whether smart meter needed. Much trawling and Googling across countless “expert” sites gave no answers. Some actually went out of their way to conceal stuff. Put these issues up on here and all sorted in a matter of minutes. Brilliant.
Of the criteria you mention re EV drivers I hit only one: owner of well low-mileage EV. Needed electric shopping trolley for around 2,000 miles p.a. Tried as many as I could and settled on ID.3 because:
1) It was the most comfortable by a long way: excellent ride and comfy seats aided by optional dynamic chassis control, and
2) VW, my dealer says, have missed their quota of EVs sold and have therefore kept APs and charges for extra packs at an absurdly low level.
So, my friend, thanks again for all your help and to all the others: kezo, Footloose etc., etc.
Talk again soon
I have old style gas and electric meters but intend to change soon as the best deals are available to those with smart meters. There are a number of different catagory of electricity user, namely those with :- i) Smart meters ii) Electric vehicles (split into high and low mileage drivers, full BEV and plug in hybrid) iii) Home batteries iv) Home batteries with solar v) Home batteries, solar with Air Source Heat Pumps (although not so many in this catagory lol) There may be other criteria but all of the above will influence the best tariff for you, so when looking for the best tariff/supplier to use, giving as much of the above info as possible will help in the info we can give. @Tharg its great to see you back on the Forum.
Hello there, I’ve only just joined the forum and I saw this thread.
I’ve had an Id3 for nearly 3 years that’s soon to be replaced by an ID4 (we needed a bigger boot) and I started out with OVO. Since then we’ve had solar and a 9.5kw GivEnergy LFP battery installed by OVO and we’re now using their Charge Anytime at 7p per KW with a standard rate at about 21p per KW. I don’t use the solar to charge the car because they pay us 20p for every KW we export and we had to have a smart meter fitted in order for them to differentiate the electricity going to the car and electricity being used by the house. You can make a case to use Octopus but we’re more than happy with OVO’s deal. To each their own.
Cheers
Stuart the solar payment is very tempting but can you tell me how long you get cheap electricity and when?
Do you get 24hrs a day at 7p but not for the rest of the house, if so when do you charge your battery?
I haven’t decided who to go to so open to other providers.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Stuart the solar payment is very tempting but can you tell me how long you get cheap electricity and when? Do you get 24hrs a day at 7p but not for the rest of the house, if so when do you charge your battery? I haven’t decided who to go to so open to other providers.
Brydo, the 7p per KW is 24/7 for the car only and the house is 21p per KW 24/7. There’s no cheap rate for the whole house, just the car. The battery is charged via the solar panels and this is our first summer but we’re producing enough to run the house during the day off of the solar, as well as top the battery up to 100% and export to the grid, and when the sun goes down the house is run off of the battery. Apart from charging the car at 7p, we’ve run the house from the solar this summer and earned money from OVO which we left in the account in order to try and cover the winter – we’ll see! 😏 What happens with the car charging is that you are charged the full amount for the electricity used and then given a rebate the following month once they’ve worked out the exact amount of electricity used to charge the car. It works fine. Kaluza are the company behind it.
Happy hunting 👍
When I said the battery is charged via the solar, I meant the house battery is charged via the solar and not the car battery!
Stuart I think you would be better off moving to Octopus. You could send all your solar back to the grid @15p per kWh. You would be able to fill your car and battery every night 365 days a year @7p per kWh.
Changing to Octopus would cost the same for running your car, 7p per kWh, so no difference there.
Your battery would be filled at night so you would be running your house all year day and night for 7p per kWh assuming your battery is big enough to run your house.
If you know how much electricity you consume per year stick it on here along with your solar generation for the year and we can see what it would actually cost with each scenario 👍
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Since joining Octopus 6 days ago, tomorrow will be my 3rd free electricity session between 1-2pm.
Tomorrow’s session will be used boiling the kettle and filling the bath, saving on gas. How genius is that, not even Kraken or Kaluza is that clever 😂
Stuart I think you would be better off moving to Octopus. You could send all your solar back to the grid @15p per kWh. You would be able to fill your car and battery every night 365 days a year @7p per kWh. Changing to Octopus would cost the same for running your car, 7p per kWh, so no difference there. Your battery would be filled at night so you would be running your house all year day and night for 7p per kWh assuming your battery is big enough to run your house. If you know how much electricity you consume per year stick it on here along with your solar generation for the year and we can see what it would actually cost with each scenario 👍
There I was, bimbling along quite happily in my own little world and you’ve come along and thrown a spanner into the works! 😁 We’ll have had it for a year, this December, and I’ll have the total amount of usage then but…youve sown a seed!
Cheers
What size of home battery and solar array do you have Stuart?
@Kezo maybe time to get a home battery?these events will happen more often once the upgrade of electricity cables from Scotland to England are completed passing all our cheap wind power down to you southerners, your welcome lol
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