Electricity tariffs and setting up of EV home charging procedures

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  • #282124
    Brydo
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      I’ve noticed we have more posts relating to electricity tariffs and setting up of EV home charging procedures and was wondering if there was enough interest to set up a permanent sticky.

      There is a fair amount of money to be saved charging from home and getting the correct tariff could save more.

      I don’t really have much expertise in the topic but I’ve noticed there are those who’ve been using a number of tariffs and actually change tarrif between summer and winter so there must be money to be saved for members to go to the bother.

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      • This topic was modified 1 week, 1 day ago by wmcforum. Reason: Too niche

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    • #282376
      Phaedra
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        @Vinnie Quick question

        It’s not actually “Anytime” is it? from what I read on the Ovo site you connect up and it then gives you a time slot or slots when the 7p cost is available during that day, but that could be during the night or early hours of the next day or not enough to fully charge the car, it’s just what’s available that day.  Or have I read that wrong?.

        Thanks  🙂

        Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

        #282380
        Avatar photoVinnie
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          @Phaedra

          This is taken from OVO site

          “Unlike others, we let you smart charge your EV at a lower rate of 7p per kWh, any time you like, day or night. The clue’s in the name.”

          I usually charge overnight like most, plug in at 9pm to be ready for 5 am, but have plugged in at 11 am and left it till around 5pm, the car was fully charged and only cost 7p kWh. As long as Ohme app is blue it’s at cheap rate.

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          #282384
          Phaedra
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            @Vinnie  Thanks  🙂

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            #282387
            des
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              @Brydo it’s something I have never looked at tbh. I’m still saving a good few pound considering my old 3008 done 90 miles for £20 at around £1.10 a litre.

              #282388
              Phaedra
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                My Enyaq is averaging around  3.7miles/kWh just driving and not making any effort to be frugal, so basically 37 miles for 75p

                So far this month it’s cost me £9.45 to charge at home.  I’ve done about 460 miles and have a full charge so another 295 or so “in the tank”.
                That’s around 750 miles for £9.45, same mileage in my previous Ateca would be over £120

                Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                #282391
                Brydo
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                  @Phaedra what is your thinking on changing the tariff summer and winter?

                  The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                  Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                  #282394
                  Phaedra
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                    I’m keeping an eye on the Agile prices using this website,
                    https://www.octopriceuk.app/agile

                    So far the daily rates have been cheaper than Intelligent Go but there’s not been very many times when it’s cheaper than 7.5p to charge the car.

                    My car usage for May was 187kWh, almost the same as my domestic use (208kWh) so I need to see if it’d be cheaper to switch, if my domestic use was a lot higher then it would be, but at the moment it doesn’t look like it.

                    Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                    #282396
                    Brydo
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                      So you are on “intelligent go” just now and considering “Agile”. Agile rates fluctuate on a half-hourly basis and Intelli Go gives six hours of EV charging at 7.5 p per kWh.

                      Agile looks less predictable but the long-term data shows that it could be cheaper in the long run although with the chance of some really high costs when conditions are unfavourable.

                      The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                      Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                      #282397
                      Brydo
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                        @wmcforum i Don’t know if this practical, reasonable or achievable but could we have a fixed post at the top of the first page where we could add a link to each of the Tariffs available. There are a finite number of tariff on the market so it shouldn’t get too big. It would be good to be able to search a tariff when a member posts about it.  It would allow members to post a new tarrif when it becomes available.

                        The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                        Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                        #282399
                        kezo
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                          @wmcforum if allowed, it would be benificial if members that have EV tariffs can share a referal link in their signature.

                          There are plenty of referal links on forums like Speak EV but, would be good if we could keep it inhouse. I.E Octopus referer gets £50 credit and the member signing up gets £50 credit.

                           

                          #282420
                          kezo
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                            @wmcforum if allowed, it would be benificial if members that have EV tariffs can share a referal link in their signature. There are plenty of referal links on forums like Speak EV but, would be good if we could keep it inhouse. I.E Octopus referer gets £50 credit and the member signing up gets £50 credit.

                            when you do this it just becomes a riot like the Facebook groups when one on asks and you end up 100 replies because everyone wants their code used and it becomes very messy thread

                            No it doesnt work like that and no riot is caused! Asdes I didn’t mention FB.

                            It is simply a referal link that is placed in a members signature if they are on one of these tariffs. IT IS UP TO THE PERSON WANTING TO JOIN, WHICH LINK THEY WANT TO CHOOSE!

                            NO ONE OTHER THAN THE MEMBER WHO’S LINK XYZ HAS CHOSEN WILL KNOW ABOUT IT!

                             

                            #282423
                            Rene
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                              I think, and certainly hope, that it is “or” on Octopus Intelligent, because during the eligibility check, if you select a car and a charger that are not compatible then it won’t let you proceed, but if, as I did, you choose a charger that is not compatible (I have Hypervolt) and a car that is (I await an Enyaq) then you are allowed to sign-up.

                              Looking at it slightly more in-depth, something seems to have changed. It’s now a case by case basis depending on software of car and charger. When we signed up, we called Octopus because the original charger we wanted (Hypervolt) with a GTE (hardware-compatible, like the Enyaq) wasn’t possible, so we went for a different charger. It is possible now.

                              So scratch this, sorta.

                              Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19
                              Current: VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23

                              #282426
                              Rene
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                                Anyone know how long it is taking Octopus or Ovo to install a smart meter?

                                Took absolutely forever with Octopus. We waited over a year for them to make an appointment. Basically was done the next day, but to get to that point took genuinely ages.

                                Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19
                                Current: VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23

                                #282435
                                kezo
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                                  Anyone know how long it is taking Octopus or Ovo to install a smart meter?

                                  Took absolutely forever with Octopus. We waited over a year for them to make an appointment. Basically was done the next day, but to get to that point took genuinely ages.

                                  This is what concerns me if moving to a new supplier.

                                  #282447
                                  Brydo
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                                    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                    Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                    #282448
                                    Tosher
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                                      I’m assuming I’d need a Smartmeter installed to take advantage of the Octopus cheaper tariffs?

                                      #282449
                                      kezo
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                                        I’m assuming I’d need a Smartmeter installed to take advantage of the Octopus cheaper tariffs?

                                        Yup!

                                        #282459
                                        wmcforum
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                                          @brydo

                                          have you switched to the BG fixed or are you just pointing it out? I know very little about the projected prices, is it recommended to sign up to fix prices?

                                          #282462
                                          Brydo
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                                            Just pointing it out wmc.

                                            The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                            Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                            #282465
                                            wmcforum
                                            Which Mobility Car

                                              Just pointing it out wmc.

                                              Is it worth switching to this? I’ve quickly read there is a 5% decrease due 1st July then a proposed 13% increase in October?

                                              #282477
                                              Brydo
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                                                @wmcforum it really depends on your own specific situation. If you have a BEV it’s difficult to see past the two tariffs on Octopus Energy where you are charging, in my area, at 9p per kwh, for 4 hours and 7.5p per kwh for 6 hours

                                                If you have battery storage the batteries can be charged at the same cost and you can run your house all day at a cheaper rate.

                                                That’s why i think this topic is needed as there are a number of tariffs out there and working out which is best for you isn’t easy.

                                                If you are on a basic tariff then a fixed rate will let you know how much you will be charged over the fixed rate period which will give an element of piece of mind. The boffins are suggesting the price of electricity will go up at the end of the year but predicting how prices will go beyond that is difficult

                                                 

                                                The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                                Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                                #282478
                                                kezo
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                                                  Just pointing it out wmc.

                                                  Is it worth switching to this? I’ve quickly read there is a 5% decrease due 1st July then a proposed 13% increase in October?

                                                  This is a quote I did last night with a start date 2nd July, to take into account the price cap reduction. I also believe there is 4hrs half price electricity every Sunday.

                                                  Is it worth it, I don’t know and will take into account other deals available elsewhere and whether it is worth me going for EV tariff for the Tucson PHEV or not.

                                                  Quote based on S Wales.

                                                  #282479
                                                  kezo
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                                                    The other thing worth considering is do you or don’t you have a smart meter, whether it is Smets 1 or Smets 2 and does a new supplier or tariff call for one.

                                                    If you want an EV tariff, its most likely you will need a Smets 2 meter. If you don’t have a smart meter or have a Smets 1 meter you could be stuck on a standard variable tariff waiting for some considerable time for a suitable smart meter to be installed before you can move over to a cheap tariff. @Rene waited around 12 months!

                                                    #282481
                                                    wmcforum
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                                                      As it’s only a lock for 14 months and that will be two summers and one winter I’m gonna do it. My thinking is prices will be at their highest when demand is high, so winter.

                                                      #282486
                                                      kezo
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                                                        As it’s only a lock for 14 months and that will be two summers and one winter I’m gonna do it. My thinking is prices will be at their highest when demand is high, so winter.

                                                        Worth looking at!

                                                        https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/are-there-any-cheap-fixed-energy-deals-currently-worth-it/

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