Dash Cams

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  • #324735
    FiestaRed
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      I appreciate I’m not supposed to have a ‘hard’ wired dash cam fitted after having taken delivery of the car. Anyone know if it would it be OK to have one ‘hard’ wired if I go back to the dealership who supplied the car?

      Don’t really like the idea of dash cam cables hanging around the windscreen.

      • This topic was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by FiestaRed.

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    • #324737
      belfast4
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        Buy an OBD power supply for the Dashcam.

        #324738
        FiestaRed
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          Buy an OBD power supply for the Dashcam.

          Apologies, I have no idea what that is. Any help please?

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          #324739
          joss
          Moderator

            OBD power supply for the Dashcam

            https://www.halfords.com/technology/dash-cam-accessories/nextbase-obd-power-cable-825926.html

            Joss
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            #324740
            belfast4
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              All cars have an OBD port which is used by technicians/mechanics to plug a machine into to read fault codes or alter things on cars. You can buy a cable that plugs into the port that will power a dashcam. It can then be run up to the camera behind the pillar and head cloth to hide the wire. As it is plugged into the OBD it is not hard wired. One on eBay as an example.

              https://ebay.us/m/mY4xac

              #324741
              trb10
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                I still don’t get or agree with Motability’s argument that you can’t have a hard wired dash cam installed.  I had an incident in my current lease, where an aggressor gained access to my car, and motability let me install a hard wired dashcam……..Strange

                #324742
                FiestaRed
                Participant

                  All cars have an OBD port which is used by technicians/mechanics to plug a machine into to read fault codes or alter things on cars. You can buy a cable that plugs into the port that will power a dashcam. It can then be run up to the camera behind the pillar and head cloth to hide the wire. As it is plugged into the OBD it is not hard wired. One on eBay as an example. https://ebay.us/m/mY4xac

                  Really appreciate the help. Thank you.

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                  #324755
                  Southamman
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                    You can have a hard wired dash cam if it’s fitted by the deaoer before collection

                    #324761
                    FiestaRed
                    Participant

                      You can have a hard wired dash cam if it’s fitted by the deaoer before collection

                      Thanks for the reply but I did mention “I appreciate I’m not supposed to have a ‘hard’ wired dash cam fitted after having taken delivery of the car.”

                      • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by FiestaRed.

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                      #324763
                      DJ Kav
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                        Be careful where you run the wires, as some ‘may’ interfere with any airbag deployment.
                        Not saying that it would, but you can never 100% rule out.

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                        #324767
                        Mossfinn
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                          I appreciate I’m not supposed to have a ‘hard’ wired dash cam fitted after having taken delivery of the car. Anyone know if it would it be OK to have one ‘hard’ wired if I go back to the dealership who supplied the car? Don’t really like the idea of dash cam cables hanging around the windscreen.

                          My understanding of the Motability rule is to ensure that the car car electronics are not interfered with by improper wiring leading to warranty issues. Whilst most will use a professional installer, many people install themselves so I think it’s easier to have a blanket after market ban.

                          I would imagine that if they permit the supply and installation of one by the dealer pre installation, there would be a good chance they would permit it retro fitted under same terms.
                          Like everything, only way to be sure is contact Motability.

                          #324773
                          joss
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                            I had my BMW EYE 3 front and rear dash cam installed by dealership before collection, so it’s all cosher.

                            Joss
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                            #324784
                            kezo
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                              OBD 11 standard for 12V is

                              Pin 16 battery +

                              Pin 4 chasis ground (Pin 5 signal ground).

                              There is no OBD 11 standard for ignition live, although some manufacturers support this. However, there are OBD 11 microcontrollers available, that operate at 5V 3A / 12V 3A and have ACC and Surveillance modes, such as that seen in the example link below. It is important to research and buy a reputale device, rather than the cheapest available!

                              https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Hardwire-Charger-Surveillance-Protection/dp/B0DR19H2QQ/ref=asc_df_B0DR19H2QQ?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80745591663822&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=69182&hvtargid=pla-4584345058719349&psc=1&msclkid=d14efc9cbb2c1da7757b95d702196ce9

                              If going down the route of a basic 12v OBD11 power adapter, its imprtant the output lead is protected by a cartridge fuse, as OBD pin 16 battery + is often not fused and even if it was, it would be rated at far higher Amps than that of your dashcam.

                               

                              #324785
                              kezo
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                                #324791
                                FiestaRed
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                                  As a bit of an ‘update’, the installer said fitting the dash cam the OBD way was fine and said he could do it that way.  But just to check with Motability first.

                                  Is there any way I can contact Motability by email at all? I can only find contact details for getting in touch by phone. Again, any help would be much appreciated.

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                                  #324792
                                  kezo
                                  Participant

                                    Motability computer will say no, as its not in the remit of its understanding of plug n play!

                                    #324793
                                    FiestaRed
                                    Participant

                                      Motability computer will say no, as its not in the remit of its understanding of plug n play!

                                      I think I understand what you’re saying. Just wondering if it was worth a try.

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                                      #324794
                                      kezo
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                                        “How dashcams work on the Scheme

                                        If you’re on the Motability Scheme and you’re considering fitting a dashcam to your Scheme vehicle, you can, if you meet a few conditions. Here’s what you need to know:

                                        It must be a plug-in and not hard-wired into your vehicle
                                        It needs to be attached in a way that does not cause damage to your vehicle. For example, not permanently attached to the dashboard
                                        Any costs must be covered by you, including buying the dashcam and fitting or removal costs
                                        You can fit your dashcam yourself, or your dealer can do it for you. Before you install your new device, talk to your dealer, or speak to us if you’re not sure. ”

                                        https://news.motability.co.uk/motoring/dashcams-explained/

                                        In my view, you have met the terms outlined by Motability, in that its power source would be from a plug in adapter, similar to that of a USB and 12V aux plug adapter and not permanently hard wired to the vehicle.

                                        Most at Motability wont have clue and merely customer service reps, what they input on the computer will simply return no, as it is too defined however, simply by generalising the question by connecting using any 12v socket as long as its not hard wired to the vehicle, will undoubtedly return a yes!

                                        #324797
                                        FiestaRed
                                        Participant

                                          Here’s what you need to know: It must be a plug-in and not hard-wired into your vehicle
                                          In my view, you have met the terms outlined by Motability, in that its power source would be from a plug in adapter, similar to that of a USB and 12V aux plug adapter and not permanently hard wired to the vehicle.

                                          Thanks for that. I agree with everything you’ve said. An OBD connection will be a ‘plug’ in method as they’ve stated.

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