Car numbers on the Motability Scheme today

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  • #106566 Reply
    Winston
    Participant

    Just noticed the Audi A4 black edition has disappeared from the scheme

    As much as it a fine looking and top quality motor , I did think the AP was pretty expensive and not that disabled friendly

    but it was still good to see it on the scheme as it was another option

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    #106568 Reply
    Landyman

    I don’t know much about about the MG ev but it seems excellent value ap wise.

     

    #106570 Reply
    Footloose

    Hi Wayne,

    your welcome and like you I am grateful for the scheme but with vehicles being added and removed within a short period of time it’s getting ridiculous therefore I may also extend for five years or until a suitable vehicle comes along and please don’t think I’m picky but as due to my disability(double leg amputee)and working at least 45 hours per week my one luxury is my car as my social life involves a quiet drive and cheap lunch 👍

    #106578 Reply
    BionicRusty
    Participant

    Good on ya Footloose. It must take so much effort to do what you do. I’ve spent almost forty years working in the ‘able’ world and was extremely proud of my work, as you should be. But sadly for me the overwhelming bouts of pain became more and more regular until it just became my life. I honestly do hope to continue with Motability but I am certainly weighing up my options, including that If I buy a car I’ll have at least some equity at the end of it. Along with repair bills probably. 🤣😂

    🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎

    #106593 Reply
    Oscarmax
    Participant

    14/2/2020 cars on scheme 1946 MG 2 on model ZS

    ZS review here

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mg-motor/zs/first-drives/mg-zs-ev-2019-review

     

     

     


    In 2005 I suffered a brain injury which has left me with mental and physical disabilities.
    Unfortunately I do get confused and get things wrong, so I apologise in advance.

    #106605 Reply
    vinalspin
    Participant

    @BionicRusty, what kind of car do you need and what age would you ideally want?

    #106607 Reply
    Elliot
    Participant

    Just to let you know, Motability are discussing with Audi the possibility of bringing back the A4 as well as other models.

    No current plans apparently to adding the new BMW 2 series Gran Coupe.

     

    #106608 Reply
    Winston

    Fingers crossed 🤞🏻 the more options the better for members 👍🏻

    #106609 Reply
    Elliot
    Participant

    Another bit of info is that they are also talking to Mercedes about putting their PHEV’s on the scheme later in the year.

     

    #106623 Reply
    BionicRusty
    Participant

    @BionicRusty, what kind of car do you need and what age would you ideally want?

    Hi Vinalspin. If I do leave the scheme, and it really is a capital IF, I’d probably go for an old (~15yr old) E Class or something along those lines. I used to own an AMG Coupe and it was so comfortable. Getting out would be a challenge though. It’s all about comfort in car for me. Possibly an old Phaeton!

    That’s thinking with my heart.

    Thinking with my head, it’d probably be an old Discovery or the suchlike. Yes, yes, I know. Breakdown city. I like that they’re easy to work on and I have a land rover specialist close by.

    I also live quite close to a weekly car auction so I’d be happy to play with buying before I find my ‘forever car’

    A lot to think about

    👍👍

    🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎

    #106629 Reply
    blueclouduk
    Participant

    I had a long chat with an MO member of staff yesterday mainly to have a bit of a whinge.

    The basis of my whinge was that as customer, it was becoming increasingly difficult to research a possible replacement for the current car. With cars coming on for short periods, e.g. Ford Kuga, Audi A4, it was making things even more difficult.  The new car is due to be ordered in June and I can’t find a replacement that will have the space for everything, the power to pull a trailer with a scooter loaded on it.  I have an AP budget of £1500.

    The person at the other of the end sounded sympathetic and officially confirmed that the chopping and changing of cars coming on and off the list was causing difficulties and confusion for MO and customers alike.  One little thing that was mentioned was that there are going to be a lot of changes to the cars available.  The explanation being that manufacturers are pretty much racing each other to produce mild hybrids and reduce the number of diesels in their ranges.

    I asked what would be the best way forward given that I’m now in my 27th year with Motability and don’t want to leave the scheme.  I was very surprised that applying for a grant wasn’t mentioned.  Neither was moving across to a WAV that could accommodate both my wheelchair and a scooter.  Lease extensions were mooted.  Buying the existing car also but finding sufficient money to do that would be nigh on impossible within the time frame left available.

    The best solution looks like I will have to extend the lease.  In theory at least I will be able to save a bit more for a larger AP (and a tow bar).  To be fair, I like my current car and all the toys it came with.  Unfortunately all I’ll be doing is delaying the inevitable but at least I’ll be in a  more flexible position as I could potentially take advantage of a quick deal.

    The only thing I will want to check is the good condition bonus.  It’s increased again recently and I don’t want any extension to decrease what I get back.  I’ve not missed one yet since they were introduced.

    Please don’t rely on any of this information as gospel as it wasn’t an official approach just a “chat and whinge”.

    #106632 Reply
    jamesg

    15/2/2020       cars  on  scheme     1978    Audi   15  on  models    A1  4  ON .A3  7  ON    A4  2  ON  Q2  2  ON ////Kia    16   on   model  Picanto   ////  Nissan   1  on   model   X- Trail  ////

    #106634 Reply
    BionicRusty
    Participant

    Bluecloud, thank you for sharing. It’s good to hear that at least MO are hearing of the frustrations.

    And James, you’ve just proved your answer to my question last week in that the list can change on a weekend. 😃

    Nice to see the A4 back but WoW what and AP!

    🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎

    #106637 Reply
    vinalspin
    Participant

    Same story, pull the cars off, give it a bit then stick them back on with a massive price increase, where do they think we can all get the money from? Doing this is just going to cull more and more people from the scheme and there is no reason for needing to have such huge increases in the AP’s as the 2nd hand market hasn’t suddenly slashed a grand from all cars has it!

    It’s just greed, one manufacturer does it so they all just follow suit, pretty soon there won’t be a car with a decent spec left on the scheme and the ones with a middle kind of spec will all be near 4 grand and out of the reach of most customers, great way to kill the scheme off permanently.

    #106640 Reply
    Brydo
    Participant

    I contacted motability to complain, as we all should do if unhappy. As always the woman was very very nice, as you would expect on the wages and conditions they receive, but absolutely useless. The cars are coming off due to changes in co2 emissions, Volvo are the ones wanting extra for metallic paint, don’t know if the Kuga, or any other hybrid, will be coming on the scheme etc etc. Don’t they realise the power they have with over 600,000 customers.

    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
    Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

    #106643 Reply
    jamesg

    Dont   blame   the  manufactures    its   all  Motabilitys    fault . With  there  caps  and red lines .

    #106649 Reply
    BionicRusty
    Participant

    I’ve just done some rough calcs on the A4 Black.

    All in for Motability it comes to,

    £13,300 for the term.

    Same car on a lease is,

    £9,730 for the deposit and the three yr lease at 10k miles.

    Then adding,

    £900 for insurance (£300 per yr)

    £300 for tyres (one set)

    I’ve just done some rough calcs on the A4 Black.

    All in for Motability it comes to,

    £13,300 for the term.

    Same car on a lease is,

    £9,730 for the deposit and the three yr lease at 10k miles.

    Then adding,

    £900 for insurance (£300 per yr)

    £300 for tyres (one set. Although personally, I can/will go three years on one set)

    £300 (servicing. You’d stand a good chance of getting this thrown in.)

    £432 Breakdown cover

    = £11,662 Total.

    I appreciate there are variables and that many cars are a good deal but this shows it’s possible to find a better deal.

    Of course the one thing leaving the scheme does not offer is the convenience which for many, will be one of the main reasons for staying. And I include myself in this statement……….probably.

    I paused for a long while before posting this as I do not want to appear that I am bashing the scheme. I truly am not. I am just showing what else is out there.

     

    🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎

    #106666 Reply
    Matthew Daniel

    Wayne,

    I totally agree with you. You even struggle if you want to leave Motability as you don’t have any proper No Claims.
    I have extended my XC60 for 16 months now but think that this is the end of my Motability times. The prices you mentioned are also tax free when it comes to the charity of Motability.
    It is very sad as I believe a lot more could be done. I agree that they don’t seem to be leveraging the huge client base and even worse, we are still often treated by some dealers as nobody’s. They claim to make very little from us, yet the numbers seem to show a different picture.
    If I do leave, then I will be unlikely to return once I have built up my No Claims, as I don’t want to be in this position again.
    Why are we insured but not getting No Claims. It just seems to me like another way to keep people from leaving through fear of high insurance costs.
    Taking vehicles off and then returning them with very high AP’s looks like profiteering to me. We as customers have very little we can do. I wonder if we would be better off if we organised our own PCP leasing and were allowed by the government to get it tax free, like Motability. At the end of the day we should be the ones getting the benefit of tax free not a company.

    #106668 Reply
    Oscarmax
    Participant

    Did not the Government Select Committee look into Motability a little while ago ? it just seems things are getting a little worse. If it was not for the recent reduction of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV to an more affordable £1699 from the ridiculous £3700 + AP last quarter I would probably walk away from the scheme.

    So of these AP increases are just plain ridiculous.


    In 2005 I suffered a brain injury which has left me with mental and physical disabilities.
    Unfortunately I do get confused and get things wrong, so I apologise in advance.

    #106675 Reply
    Elliot
    Participant

    Some serious price increases there yet at my local Audi dealer the prices of new vehicles have come down rather than gone up.

    #106684 Reply
    Landyman

    I have no knowledge of pcp deals so I don’t know what or if you need a credit rating to abtain a deal, I can’t see myself going that route.

    In the five years I’ve been with motability like everyone else I’ve noticed ap going through the roof to the point where for the car that suits my disability and needs it’s just too expensive, I can’t see the point picking another car that doesn’t fulfil my needs so hopefully I can extend my present lease to five years and hope like hell it changes, if it doesn’t then I’ll look at going back to the second hand market, I’m lucky in that I’ve still got insurance on my old landy and no claims discount.

     

     

    #106687 Reply
    BionicRusty
    Participant

    Apologies everyone. I realise that my post in the figures reads poor.

    The post threw a crazy as I was trying to post (N Wales 4G for you) and it’s ended up a little screwy.

    After a certain time you lose the ‘edit’ button so it’s locked now I’m afraid.

    I hope you get the gist though.

    🏎 I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it 🏎

    #106700 Reply
    blueclouduk

    I’m not a fan of how Motability Operations works hand-in-hand with manufacturers. Given the bulk buying power of the world’s second largest fleet operator, the discounts should be massive and yet customers primarily are capped based on the OTR price list.  I remember having a chat with an Enterprise manager and he was almost bragging that he could get new cars at 30% below retail. The scheme is constantly tweaked, supposedly in favour of customers but we customers seldom seem  to be consulted.  I don’t want to see a return to the relaunch of the scheme when it was possible to buy just about anything so long as their was an AP.  I think it was a mistake for Motability to drop the loan facility but given the high interest rate (11.5% APR when it ended) I’d have been surprised if more than a couple of hundred used it each year.

    There is almost zero chance of me leaving the scheme as I have never done less than 50,000 miles in all but one of my car’s and even that was due to an early termination.  With such high mileage I go through quite a few tyres. I can also fit a tow bar and change to winter wheels whenever the need arises with little hassle from Motability.

    I take a lot of interest in the price lists when they are published and I am staggered that car numbers been have floating around 10% lower than Q4.  It’s almost as if that Motability negotiators were occupied with other matters throughout last December. Given the number of new models that have been and continue to be released and dropped Motability have been caught napping and customers have been left confused.  Recent confusion over the VW Transporter being on the website but not known by MO staff smacks of very poor organisation, particularly when MO staff are under instruction to direct customers to the website for the “latest, official” list.

    Just a little note about insurance.  I know that although an NCD cannot be transferred, that’s no different to any car insurance company. Your new insurance company will write to Royal & Sun Alliance and check your history.  Any company that says that Motability doesn’t give discounts that can be transferred should be avoided.

    Motability could and should make some changes that are more in favour of customers but as seen recently with the PIP debacle when customers lost cars and it was Motability that had to foot the bill. That was a political decision and cost Motability a lot of money both in terms of early terminations and continuation payments.

    Finally (at last you say), is the role of the British press. The press are generally anti-disabled and show no signs of changing. I cannot think of any genuine charity in the UK that has received so much negative press.  “Free BMWs and Range Rovers” have been splashed as headlines regularly.  Never once have I seen the Daily Mail praise Motability for their efforts to ensure that disabled people are kept mobile. I would love someone to be famous enough to challenge the sh*t that comes out of Fleet Street and Wapping but if someone like Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson struggles to make headway, what chance does an “ordinary disabled” person have?

    #106710 Reply
    jamesg

    16/2/2020     cars  on  scheme     1978    no  change.

    #106723 Reply
    Matt

    Interesting post from BionicRusty and I share the frustration however when doing a comparison you have to do like for like.

    For instance the Motability lease gives you 20k a year whereas the figure you quote if for a 10k a year lease.  The cheapest I could get on a Audi a4 20k lease was £16887.

    Equally I would love to know where you could get insurance of £300 a year.  Certainly I doubt you could get that in any urban area.  I have both a scheme car (MB CLA) and a lease car (MB GLC).  The insurance for the lease car is approx. £750 per year.

    Again I would be interested in where you could get a dealer service for a premium brand for £300 for three years.  My GLC service costs approx. £600 per year.

    Breakdown cover is usually thrown in free with a premium car (it certainly is for my GLC) so that is a positive.

    I get to see both sides and basically the Motability side is certainly a lot less stressful and usually makes financial sense, we’ve just ordered a MB B Class B200 premium plus and we certainly couldn’t get it any cheaper even with the carrot of the GLC lease coming up for renewal.    I do however feel frustrated as I would like to see a bigger range of premium cars and I don’t mind paying for the ap in order to have the car I want.  I also remember being younger (and poorer) when there was no way I could have afforded a new car or a decent second hand car, or even the AP on “nicer” car, and I fully appreciate that part of the reason I’m in such a fortunate position today is that having a Motability car enabled me to have the freedom to take jobs without having to worry about transport/mobility issues.

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