[Chipper]

Hi, it’s becoming harder to choose a replacement car this time and wanting to go EV this time.

Which is the better car between Skoda Enyaq and Hyundai Ionic 5?

Both seem to fulfil my use of a big enough boot for a manual wheelchair. My usage is very marginal mileage wise as my last 3 cars have all been returned with 6k miles. We don’t drive much on motorways but still would like a reasonably sized car.

My wife arranged a test drive through the Skoda website which they rang back to confirm, however on the day they said she wasn’t booked in and we’re very offhand with communication. She put in a complaint but no-one got back and we both thought it was like the early days where Motability customer’s are treated like second class citizen’s.

She visited the Hyundai dealer and felt much better treated.

Anyway all been said some options I was thinking of were:

Skoda Enyaq
210kW 85 SE L 84kWh 5dr Auto [Plus/Lodge] £2,999 or

Skoda Enyaq
210kW 85 SE L 84kWh 5dr Auto [Plus/Lounge] £3,499

Hyundai Ioniq 5
168kW Premium 84 kWh 5dr Auto £3,949

Hyundai Ioniq 5
168kW N Line 84 kWh 5dr Auto £4,199

The Hyundai dealer has some stock cars with a nice discount

£3,249 or £3,549 for N Line

I would have to sign up this Wednesday and the order would be put through on 29th September for my hand over 29th December.

Apologies for the long post but could use some help as I’m getting disheartened with cars leaving mid scheme which I never knew was a thing.

Regards

 

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[MFillingham]

The advantages of the Skoda over the Hyundai are:

much bigger boot in a much easier to use shape

car feels very ‘safe’

a more ‘car’ like feel.

 

The advantages of the Ioniq 5 over the Enyaq:

 

much faster rate of supercharging

the car feels like a tardis for all occupants

the drive is more entertaining on winding country roads

the front storage is great for stuff you might need with a full boot, mine carries cables, screen wash, cleaning solutions & cloths and a pump for the tyres.

it also comes with V2L including a 3 pin plug for the back seat and an adapter for the charging socket.  I’ve powered the pressure washer several times and our daughter has run her laptop on long drives.

 

We test drove both before settling on the Hyundai but I’d strongly recommend putting the chair in the boot as the rear door angle reduces the usable space so much more than we thought. We could barely put shopping in with the Mrs’ walker.

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[Glos Guy]

@Chipper Is it essential for you to have a brand new car? Even the cheapest of those cars is going to cost you £16,000 over 3 years which, given your extremely low mileage, equates to £2.67 per mile (plus charging costs). If I was only doing 2,000 miles a year I’d buy a cheap runaround and save a fortune, as running costs over 3 years would be a tiny fraction of what a Motability car would cost!

[Chipper]

@MFillingham

Thanks for the reply,

I’m pretty sure the wheelchair would fit as it fits fine in my Austral and would probably fit in ionic flat.

What size wheels are on your car and does it help prevent body roll?

[Chipper]

@Glos Guy

Thanks and you’re correct I don’t really need a new car but neither do most people.

I do think like you these days but my wife is dead against getting a used car unfortunately as she worries about insurance and maintenance costs. My last used car was almost 30 years ago and I spent way too much money on that so I think it put her off lol

[MFillingham]

Chipper wrote:

@MFillingham Thanks for the reply, I’m pretty sure the wheelchair would fit as it fits fine in my Austral and would probably fit in ionic flat. What size wheels are on your car and does it help prevent body roll?

I have the special edition Namsan, which has the 20” wheels.  There is some body roll but it’s only a problem when throwing it around corners.

I find the biggest threat to safety is the lane keep assist, it’s stuck me in some hair raising situations before.

I would definitely be sure the boot works for you.  It could well be fine but once you’ve received it is not the time to find out.  It’s a very wide but relatively shallow space.

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[Chipper]

Good point on the boot cheers.

Regarding body roll I do find my Austral is a little iffy and I worry it maybe a lot worse in a EV. I’m aware smaller wheels help range but with our mileage it wouldn’t really matter. The Skodas on the list all have 19 inch whereas the Hyundai has 20s on the n line and ultimate but the ultimate is again more expensive AP

All these safety systems seem pointless as people seem to turn them off. Wouldn’t have that problem with a older car like Glos Guy suggested lol more proof newer isn’t always better.

[MFillingham]

If I was in your position and I could afford it, I’d be looking at a 2-3 year old Enyaq.  You can get a good one with relatively low miles and great battery for between £15-20k and that’d last you for a good 5/6 years with your mileage with great ease.  You could get better spec than you’re looking for through the Scheme and then run it well beyond warranty length without issue.

Even an older Kona/Niro would keep you running for years as long as the chair fits.

If you’ve a drive, you can get yourself a decent charger and charge from home once a month and running costs would be pennies.

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[kezo]

My tuppence worth!

Firstly, I got to agree with @Glos-Guy as I always do, well almost always😂

A recent thread by @Shaan, shows he has been waiting for his Enyak since late March, so thats something to bare in mind.

Make sure you look and test drive.

Benefits of the Ioniq 5 over the Enyak.

You can get a stock car, as soon as your current lease ends, with a added bonus of saving £650.

On the i5, it is easy to turn off speed limit assist and lane keep assist (which should only be used on m/ways imo) by pressing a button either side of the steering wheel.

The curved entertainment & drivers screens look modern & thankfully are now black and not white!

Easy to navigate software

True one pedal driving, if that floats your boat.

Frunk for extra storage

Faster charging and VDL adaptor, to power a kettle etc on a day out and a 3 pin socket in the rear as mentioned by @MFillingham

Benefits of the Enyak over the Ioniq 5

The boot is bigger

Fits in with every other car

Personal 😂

The big box little box theme of the displays, just can’t get my head round it lol.

B Mode, not true one pedal driving

Slower charging away from home.

 

[kezo]

Something like this is not a bad deal and it’ll go like sh!t!

https://www.cargurus.co.uk/details/157789907?searchZip=B79+7TP&pid=directVDPSimilarListing

 

[Chipper]

Thanks for the replies so far, a lot of the points about leaving the scheme I agree with but again the wife doesn’t. I definitely want a EV this time so I would need to purchase my own charger whereas it’s free on the scheme for the first one.

I spent a lot of time trying to convince the missus but it’s just not happening. Again I think it’s to do with my last used car which was 12k and I ended up spending more than double making it go faster.

We live, learn and hopefully get wiser with age.

[Chipper]

@kezo not bad but would wonder why it’s taken a while to sell:

Listing duration
44 days at this dealership
44 days on CarGurus
Show price history
Date
Vehicle listed price
16/07/2026
£19,150
21/07/2026
£19,350
03/08/2026
£19,250
19/08/2026
£18,995

One thing that would personally worry me would be that year might be more prone to ICCU problems

[MFillingham]

You’d have all the speed you want from an AWD Ioniq 5,  unless you get a sudden urge to time warp (in which case look up the Ioniq 6 N).

I can see the wife’s point but when you’re going next to nowhere each year, it’s a lot of money just for a new car.

 

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[Chipper]

@MFillingham lol would love the N versions but I value my driving license too much these days.

I could count the times I’ve actually driven my current car on my fingers in the time I’ve owned it.

[MFillingham]

Yes, the Ns are ludicrous.  In the first month they were actually in the country there were posts in all the groups about them being wrapped around trees, lamp posts on roundabouts and various other ways to write off your brand new car that’s simply too powerful.

Have a peek at this one, Ultimate spec gives you so many toys it’s ridiculous.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autotrader.co.uk%2Fcar-details%2F202608215313468%3Futm_source%3Dshare%26utm_medium%3Dios-app%26fbclid%3DIwcGRvZgRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA80Mzc2MjYzMTY5NzM3ODgAAR4G_AIsngzX1pxzSTQW0ZVgKajVlLw7icd4CcGTqGZjRn_1D8Tbqgijtj6PYg_aem_fMWDwLrKVmkLc39MZluDzg&h=AUDFlYHN_1QYtEFmZFz6FRoT3VTLu1jXo2ePN75j7dqmtjp0DAJnMWvqmo9Y79-gysmMZs-SRVe_xz20a0EpyESFyVpQi00SO7i8Iwq6RKvwnclmYkK-XgJlmm7PgFSL_PKafuHr5W5_&s=1

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[kezo]

Chipper wrote:

@kezo not bad but would wonder why it’s taken a while to sell:

Whats the average number of days for a used car to sell in this climate?

Going a different direction, you can get a 26 plate MGS5 for £20k or £299 a monthe PCH, with full warranty. It’ll probably last you a lifetime or at least 6 years, saving at least  £4k on sacrified benefits alone.

Certainly worth having a look at whats out there, with your mileage.

 

 

 

[Chipper]

One thing I think I’ve noticed about the facelift models unless I’m mistaken is: they now come with a heat pump as standard but I’m sure they’ve removed other things the pre facelift version had which seems to be a shame.

30 years ago I had a 450 bhp Sierra sapphire 4×4 which was rapid it’s amazing that we now have EVs with even more power and probably way better handling.

I really think EVs are the future happening in real time just a shame the government is wish washy and Motability.

[Chipper]

@kezo I do appreciate the suggestions but a private lease car isn’t a possibility with the wife no matter how much I tell her it’s a good alternative.

I think China are releasing some great cars but I will not get one due to supporting Putin. I do have a Chinese phone but when that packs in I won’t buy another for the same reason. Strange I know.

[kezo]

Chipper wrote:

@kezo I do appreciate the suggestions but a private lease car isn’t a possibility with the wife no matter how much I tell her it’s a good alternative. I think China are releasing some great cars but I will not get one due to supporting Putin. I do have a Chinese phone but when that packs in I won’t buy another for the same reason. Strange I know.

Its was actually 2 options buy or pcp thingy.

I’m all for supporting Ukraine, but I wouldn’t cut you nose off to spite your face with phones or anything else for that matter, not least your getting better bang for your bucks and the likes of iPhones are made by Foxconn at its Zhengzhou and Shenzhen factories and whilst Samusng closed its factory in China, due to declining sales below 1% market share, it still makes some models in China.

Also worth noting, the Enyak battery is made by CATL!

 

[Chipper]

Cheers kezo excellent advice thanks I will run some of your suggestions by the missus tomorrow.

Wouldn’t have a iPhone and just reading up on CATL lol  Chinese.

If I do stay on the scheme it’s looking like I’m favouring the Hyundai but still not sure.

My options when I started looking a few weeks ago were Renault scenic (not on scheme) Kia EV3 (gone) EV4 (gone or going) doesn’t seem much else to be honest unless I went Chinese (Putin)

[Fastbike1000]

I have the Ioniq 5 Nline S which isn’t on the scheme unfortunately at the moment but I’ve got to say it’s the best car I’ve had with Motability and I’ve had some good ones including a Skoda Octavia vRS 4×4, BMW x1 Xdrive.

I did look at a Skoda Enyaq but it just didn’t seem to excite me, don’t get me wrong it’s a good car but after driving the Enyaq I knew it wasn’t for me and the dealer experience wasn’t great either.

[Chipper]

@Fastbike1000

Thanks for the reply, it does seem to me that most people who’ve owned the Hyundai seem to really like it (12v / ICCU issues aside)

The only thing is it’s a pretty high AP for the upper models and the N Line S not on the scheme would have been a great option.

@kezo and others there’s noway the wife is budging from leaving the scheme. Not an argument I’m going to win unfortunately.

We’ve rules out the Skoda so unless some miracle cars appear it’s looking like the Hyundai depending on the test drive is what we’ll be going for.

[Glos Guy]

@Chipper I fully understand the challenge with your better half.

My wife and I were both happy to stay on the scheme when we were able to get decent cars that, whilst weren’t a patch on the company or private cars that I’d had before, were perfectly suitable for our needs. The last car that fitted the bill was a BMW X1 2.0i 4WD which accommodated the wheelchair and was a joy to drive.

When the petrol X1’s left the scheme I tested the iX1 but it didn’t feel like a BMW and I didn’t like the EV experience. I wanted to leave the scheme at that stage and buy privately, but my wife (the benefit recipient) was of the same view as yours, so we stayed and got a Hyundai Tucson PHEV. Whilst it had every bit of equipment you could wish for, it was a totally soulless drive compared to the BMW, I found the PHEV thing to be an compromise, and I lost the joy of driving.

After 2 years my wife conceded that we’d be better off away from the scheme, which we did 2 months ago and we haven’t looked back. We are both very pleased with our decision. Maybe you can have another go at convincing her next time! Good luck with whatever you do. As many would say, it’s a first world problem!

[Chipper]

@gGlos Guy I totally agree with that statement.

My days of been impressed on how well a car gets us excited are well and truly gone. Heck the Renault Austral hybrid we’ve got now isn’t the most exciting experience I’ve had but in it’s defense has been exceptionally for what we needed.

Personally I’ve thought about leaving them scheme for a few years now but in all the cars we’ve had only my first ever car had any problems (nissan Micra was a huge lemon)

[kezo]

Chipper wrote:

Personally I’ve thought about leaving them scheme for a few years now but in all the cars we’ve had only my first ever car had any problems (nissan Micra was a huge lemon)

My mum has a Kona electric on the scheme and covers similar mileage to you, since my dad passsed. She has decided to leave the scheme, when her lease is up next year and either rely on taxis or get a a used run about, which would work out significantly cheaper than the sacrified benefits alone over 3yrs.

The Austral is basically the same as thw Qashqai however, Renault chose not to use the more economical E-Power system. (Renault, Nissan, Mitsubushi alliance since 1999)

 

[Chipper]

@kezo yeah taxis would work for me as I hardly get out but not with the wife.

The Renault does indeed use a different system to the Nissan but also works very well and really economical.

I drove it today up to the Hyundai dealer and was really surprised how good the Renault still is.

Anyway I’ve ordered a stock Ionic 5 N line as couldn’t justify the jump to the ultimate and the fiddly door handles of the premium model.

Test drive was really short but was enough (just) to get a feeling for it. Drives pretty similar to the Renault and should be easier for the wife to adapt.

I wasn’t impressed with the interior and actually prefer the Renault, especially the Google maps setup and we can live without the HUD.

Thanks to all who helped and offered good alternatives but I had to end the hunt as god knows what’ll happen come Q4 pricing and or available cars.

Regards

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