Bells, Whistles And £0 AP?

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    Zelda
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    Hi all,

     

    I’m just in the process of looking into getting a motability car.

    I’ve had motability cars previously, though not for a few years, however, circumstances change and i find myself in the position that i could really do with a car now.

    My previous motability cars have just been ordinary hatchbacks Ford Focus’  ( or should that be Foci? :/  )  but anyway, an ordinary hatchback might not be suitable this time round, it might but i’m not really sure but in any case, whatever i get will need to be able to easily and comfortably fit a mobility scooter in the boot as well as shopping, etc.

    That aside, what i’m particularly interested in though, is finding a car, preferably with £0 advance payment, with all the bells and whistles, or as many as possible – parking pilot, rear cameras, anti crash technology (radar ), etc.

    I’d also be very interested to hear how people have found using these technologies. I have to say, i would be very nervous of using parking pilot at first but i could really do with it, i think.

    Anyway, i’d be grateful for any advice or information anyone has.

    Many thanks 🙂

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    BigDave
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    To help us help you, can you give a bit more info, such as:

    Do you need a manual or automatic?

    Petrol/Diesel/Hybrid/Electric?

    High (SUV type) or low (hatchback/estate) entry/exit?

    5 or 7 seater?

    Will a hoist need fitting for your scooter? (Some car rooflines really slope down at the rear).

    Which allowance do you receive (PIP/WPMS etc) as it has a great effect on the AP’s?

    Cheers

    Dave

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    Mike

    Welcome young Zelda

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    BigDave
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    Welcome young Zelda

    Unless I am missing something Mike, how do you know Zelda is ‘young’?

    From what Zelda has posted above about having previous Motability cars (plural) and not being a customer for a couple of years, I wouldn’t like to hazard a guess as to whether Zelda is young/millenial/middle aged/old or even anything in between! Nor would I like to label someone as such.

    Obviously though, if Zelda is under 25, it could pose even further restrictions on the type of vehicle they can lease on the scheme. I forgot to mention that in the questions I posed above.

    Dave

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    WardyGTC
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    I heard Zelda is a bit of a legend 😉

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    Philjb

    Mike called me young man in a previous post. Made me feel 65 all over again. 🤔

     

    zelda you could always ring motability for advice, I’m not sure there are any self parking cars for 0 AP.

    Buy certainly should be with most of your requirements.

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    SEAT Arona has self parking for £0 AP but it’s a bit on the small side.

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    Mike

    Young big Dave thankyou for your reply yes I use the word young a lot

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    Mike

    I’m a young 53 years old

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    Zelda
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    Hiya guys,

    very many thanks to you all for taking the time to reply, I’m very grateful 🙂

     

    Hiya Big Dave, many thanks for your reply, I’ll try to answer as best I can but maybe a few words of explanation might help to explain where i’m at right now.

    Previously, I had no trouble with driving, arms & legs could manage what they had to do, then 3 years ago I had a fall and knee capped myself, ( right leg ) which means I’ve been hobbling about on crutches ever since. At this point, i’m not even 100% sure I can even get my leg into a drivers seat due to lack of flexibility, it took me months to figure out how to just get in a passenger seat but ever the optimist, i’ll do my best to figure out a way of getting in and out.

    Then, last year, as part of surgery for cancer, my lymph glands were removed from my left arm, which has left me with a permanent reduction in movement, though I still have enough movement to drive but it gets very painful.

    Neck and back problems since my fall mean I don’t really want to be having to turn too much when reversing/parking, hence the wish for parking pilot and or rear cameras.

    Anyhoo, that might give you an idea of the problems I have at the mo.

     

    So to answer your questions…

    I was thinking in terms of a manual, petrol car.

    5 seats would do. previously had hatchbacks but appreciate some of these might be a bit short on boot space ( that’s my Bugatti Veyron out the window 🙁   )

    Currently on PIP.

     

    As for a hoist for the scooter, do you know, that had never even crossed my mind. I wouldn’t even know where to start if I wanted to look into getting one. Any further info you can suggest on this would be very handy.

    As for low/high entry/exit, I would think in the middle thereabouts. nothing too low as I might have some difficulty getting seated, however, i’m just short of 5″ so nothing too high either. Awkward, eh? 🙂  I hope that helps a bit. Thank you!

     

    Hiya Mike 🙂 I certainly am young, in my head at any rate but not far off your age if  I’m being truthful and yes, i’d like to think that’s still very young 🙂

     

    Hiya Wardy, I am indeed a bit of a legend – in my own lunch time, that is 😀

     

    Hiya Phil, it would never have occurred to me to do that, cheers, that’s very handy to know, I’ll bear that in mind. Thank you! 🙂

     

    Hiya Wardy, many thanks, i’ll make a note of that and have a look, cheers!

     

    LOL 😀 Mike, you are but a spring chicken 🙂

    Anyhoo, thank you all so much for your help and welcomes so far, every word is greatly appreciated. 🙂

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    Hiya guys, very many thanks to you all for taking the time to reply, I’m very grateful Hiya Big Dave, many thanks for your reply, I’ll try to answer as best I can but maybe a few words of explanation might help to explain where i’m at right now. Previously, I had no trouble with driving, arms & legs could manage what they had to do, then 3 years ago I had a fall and knee capped myself, ( right leg ) which means I’ve been hobbling about on crutches ever since. At this point, i’m not even 100% sure I can even get my leg into a drivers seat due to lack of flexibility, it took me months to figure out how to just get in a passenger seat but ever the optimist, i’ll do my best to figure out a way of getting in and out. Then, last year, as part of surgery for cancer, my lymph glands were removed from my left arm, which has left me with a permanent reduction in movement, though I still have enough movement to drive but it gets very painful. Neck and back problems since my fall mean I don’t really want to be having to turn too much when reversing/parking, hence the wish for parking pilot and or rear cameras. Anyhoo, that might give you an idea of the problems I have at the mo. So to answer your questions… I was thinking in terms of a manual, petrol car. 5 seats would do. previously had hatchbacks but appreciate some of these might be a bit short on boot space ( that’s my Bugatti Veyron out the window ) Currently on PIP. As for a hoist for the scooter, do you know, that had never even crossed my mind. I wouldn’t even know where to start if I wanted to look into getting one. Any further info you can suggest on this would be very handy. As for low/high entry/exit, I would think in the middle thereabouts. nothing too low as I might have some difficulty getting seated, however, i’m just short of 5″ so nothing too high either. Awkward, eh? I hope that helps a bit.

    Hi,

    In light of your difficulties and potential need for some form of aids/adaptions, it maybe worthwhile getting in touch with ‘Driving Mobility’:

    https://www.drivingmobility.org.uk/  (link to the left)

    They took over from the old RADAR/MAVIS assessment service.

    They can carry out an assessment to see what aids and adaptions you may need to drive safely. Such as lightened steering, left foot accelerator/brake or even some form of hand controls. Aslo which types of vehicles you maybe able to access/egress easily.

    They can also advise whether your residual disability needs reporting to the DVLA Medical Branch etc.

    They are the specialists in this field and to be honest, it maybe more worthwhile going down this sort of route, knowing that the aids will suit you and help you drive safely. Rather than ‘bells and whistles’ fitted to vehicles for the mass market.

    Once you know what you need disability wise, you can then go forward on the scheme, potentially using the managed adaptions programme (many aids/adaptions are free on the scheme). Grants are available from Motability on a means tested basis towards any expensive adaptions and the vehicle itself.

    https://www.motability.co.uk/cars-scooters-and-powerchairs/adaptations-overview/adaptations-available-on-the-scheme/adaptations-prices

    With your residual limitations, I don’t think it would be wise to start recommending vehicles, until you know what you may need to overcome these limitations.

    Probably not what you are wanting to hear, but you must put your own and other road users safety first. You also need to make sure your vehicle is as easy to drive for yourself as possible and aids/adaptions can assist with this.

    Dave

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    Wazza
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    Hi young man, well you are younger than me.

    I have been looking at cars for under 25 so my offspring can drive for me. The choice is limited for me. I have come across an ideal car. It’s the seat ateca xcellence lux 1.6 diesel. The only engine available for under 25s. You could opt for a petrol engine which is more powerful and a different spec. Why this spec? Well it has all round parking camera and reversing camera. It has park assist. Great for the kids not to bump into anything. I have difficulty lifting my left leg. The sill is at the correct height and it is easy to get in and out. You mentioned issues with your right knee, you might struggle getting out a lower height car. I might recommend that you go for an auto since you have limited movements in your arm. The bonus point for me was the height adjustable passenger seat. By the way it has a feature which applies the brakes if you get too close to a car in front etc.

    This is one choice for you. Your first step is to go to any local dealer and decide what size height car is suitable for you then fine tune your selection.

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    Forgot to mention the AP is high at around £1500 but have a look at arona or Leon, they might have similar features at a lower price. I have noticed that seat have more gizmos at a certain AP compared to vw and Skoda.

    I can’t think of any car that has the park assist at nil AP

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    Zelda
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    Many, many thanks for all replies so far. I shall reply properly tomorrow – I got a bit caught up on another thread today but thank you all for your help, it really is very much appreciated  🙂

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    David

    My alteca , lux auto 1099 AP

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    Mike

    David has it got keyless ?

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    Wazza
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    David, which engine is it? At £1099. Or was it that price when you ordered it?

    New xcellence lux has keyless entry as start

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    BigDave
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    My alteca , lux auto 1099 AP

    David,

    Do you mean the Ateca or the (now out of production) Altea?

    On WPMS the Ateca 2.0 TSI XCELLENCE LUX  5DR DSG 4DRIVE is £1097 AP (very close to the quoted £1099).

    Other than that, on DLA/PIP the cheapest Ateca ‘Lux’ Auto is the 1.6 TDI XCELLENCE LUX at £1499 AP?

    Dave

     

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    SEAT ATECA ESTATE 1.5 TSI EVO XCELLENCE [EZ] 5DR DSG     ap £1099

    SEAT ATECA DIESEL ESTATE 2.0 TDI FR SPORT [EZ] 5DR DSG   ap £1099

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    SEAT ATECA ESTATE 1.5 TSI EVO XCELLENCE [EZ] 5DR DSG ap £1099 SEAT ATECA DIESEL ESTATE 2.0 TDI FR SPORT [EZ] 5DR DSG ap £1099

    Mitch,

    David said it was a ‘Lux’ auto though.

    The cheapest AP with ‘Lux’ in the description is £1499 on DLA/PIP.

    Alternatively if he is a WP, he could be £2 out with his AP on the 2.0TSI Excellence Lux auto 4wd.

    We will probably have to wait until he re-posts to see what is what.

    In anycase, the OP was looking for one with nil AP!

    Dave

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    My alteca , lux auto 1099 AP

    David, Do you mean the Ateca or the (now out of production) Altea? On WPMS the Ateca 2.0 TSI XCELLENCE LUX 5DR DSG 4DRIVE is £1097 AP (very close to the quoted £1099). Other than that, on DLA/PIP the cheapest Ateca ‘Lux’ Auto is the 1.6 TDI XCELLENCE LUX at £1499 AP? Dave

    And a fine car that 1.6 tdi is especially in Nevada white 😉

    Someone mentioned the 2.0 TSI is no longer available.

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by Avatar Wazza.
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    Have a look at Suzuki s-cross or vitara, both sz-t spec at 0 AP. They come with rear parking camera and I think rear parking sensors. They won’t have the self park assist or other fancy gizmos

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    SEAT Arona could be a good option, Xcellence Lux. Diesel auto or petrol manual both £0 ap on pip. Rear camera, adaptive cruise, collision radar, not too high and not too low seating, there are no grab handles above the doors though. I did a review on the forum members cars thread page 13.

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    Very many apologies to you all for not replying sooner but i’m extremely grateful for all of your replies, thank you so much! 🙂

    @bigdave, thanks for your fab advice, I’ve had a look at their web site but unfortunately my nearest centre is a long way away, so I doubt that i’ll be able to get there. I think we did have one of their centres here years ago but no longer, it seems. Nonetheless, you’ve given me food for thought and you are quite right that the safety of other road users is of paramount importance. i’m fairly sure I can manage though just, the parking pilot/rear cameras would be helpful. i’m wondering if there might be another way of being assessed properly though? shame our local centre seems to have gone because that would have been excellent. I’ll mull things over.
    I might just have to get someone to do the driving for me. Can you get chauffeurs uniforms on motability? 😛
    Thanks though for the excellent advice!

    Hiya @philjb Thank you muchly for that suggestion. It would never have occurred to me to give that a try, certainly worth bearing in mind, as to be honest, I don’t like the motability website much, so letting them do the hard work sounds like a good plan to me.
    @wazza, very many thanks for that info, i’m much obliged to you.
    Failing me not being able able to drive myself, i’d have to get my son to drive for me but as he’s only a novice, those safety features would be a boon for him and me lol i’d be a little less nervous of his driving with those 😀
    Anyhoo, i’ll take a look at that.

    Ah, eeeeks! just saw the AP :/ sadly that’s way out of my league 🙁 I suppose I would be prepared to pay a small AP but I couldn’t go that high sadly, never mind though, i’ll take a look at the other Seats anyway. Thank you for your suggestion though, it was very good of you to reply 🙂
    Thanks too for your suggestion of suzuki. I hadn’t thought about them despite the suzuki garage being the nearest garage to me, worth a look though. Cheers!

    @david eeeeeks! another high AP. I have to say, I came out in a sweat at the thought of paying that, or the amount of AP on Wazzas car. Criminy, i’m so tight! Ducks rear ends spring to mind, haha :D. However, I do hope that you both have a wonderful experience with your cars but that’s just beyond my piggy bank unfortunately :'(

    Hi @mitch and @mike thank you both for dropping by and for the welcome Mike 🙂

    Many thanks @marc, another vote for Seat, I have to say, I don’t think I’ve ever been in one but by the sounds of it, they’re worth having a look at. Thank you for your suggestion, much appreciated! 🙂

    Thank you all for taking the time to reply, I am very grateful to you all, you’ve given me much to think about.

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