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Hi Everyone
Does anyone know why Brydo has not been posting for a while, I miss his informative postings?
lightbodyae55
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It seems he stopped posting when i closed a thread he had started, although my reasons for doing so was for no wrong doing on his part. I apologise if i didn’t make that clear enough. If it wasn’t to do with that, and is for another reason, i hope him and his family are ok.
Without his posts i feel like i’m losing touch with the EV market.
Has anyone checked the UK lotto winners list recently………. I wonder…………….
Hi Trev
I would have thought that Brydo would have queried why you closed his thread before he stopped posting, and maybe he would have understood why it was closed.
Don’t do the lotto so cannot help with that.
Maybe he has been away on holiday, and will be back soon! I hope he will start posting again.
lightbodyae55
Hi lightbodyae55,
That or abducted by aliens and used for his knowledge on tomorrow’s technology, when they’ve finished with him i hope they leave him a roadmap to find his way back here lol.
“Calling occupants of interplanetary craft…….. Do you have Brydo?”
Hi Trev
I think that was not one of the best for the “Carpenters”, they certainly did better songs than that one!
lightbodyae55
Trev, Pops and lightbody thanks for the enquiry, I am still here lurking in the background.
Trev is correct I stopped posting after my thread regarding partners obtaining their motability car for free after the passing of the motability customer was closed. The thread was very informative with regard to the polar opposite views that people held with regard to it. Posts showed strong feelings on both sides with at least one post being removed.
I have no problem with an in appropriate post being removed but to close the thread down is unacceptable to me. Its been a long time since I was told when I can and can’t do things. So my only recourse was to stop posting.
There is certainly a need for people to talk about their choice of car or how long a car will take until delivery, but surely there must be space for debate on more difficult topics, such as the one I raised, and surely it should be allowed to run its natural course, as all threads do.
Removing a thread before it moves down page 1 and onto page 2 is wrong and stifles genuine debate, every person who posted on that thread had something to say and whether I agreed with them or not is immaterial, they had something to say and now they can’t say it.
Hi Brydo
I am glad you are still about and posting.
Unfortunately I did not read your post that was removed so i am unable to comment on it, however I am suprised that it was not discussed regarding it being removed and anyone with a reason why it should not be removed, could have their say.
lightbodyae55
Hi Brydo. Welcome back and I hope it’s not just temporary.
I would just like to offer a slightly different perspective by way of support for the moderators who, in my view, do a superb job. Pops, Just Saying and now Trev have a difficult task but I think they do it very well indeed. They let debate roll but, at times, when it goes way off topic or people become abusive to one another they have to pull the plug – and rightly so in my view.
I haven’t been on here as long as some, but have enjoyed chatting with people like yourself, Trev, Mike and many others. We don’t all agree but we keep it in good humour and respectful. However, I have noticed over the past few months that we are getting quite a lot of new users, a small number of whom are adopting what I call the ‘Facebook mentality’ where people adopt a ‘tone’ with people who have opposing views in a way that they wouldn’t dare if face to face.
I have myself come quite close to quitting the site recently as one or two snide remarks have been sent my way. I have tried to rise above it but have failed and have found myself getting irritated in some posts and then regretting it, thinking ‘I don’t need this. I have more important things in my life’. However, I am sticking with it at present as several users have kindly commented that they have found my posts to be informative and helpful.
On the specifics of your thread, I think it was more an ‘Open Arms’ discussion than main thread and, as you may recall, I had a different view from you (even though I am the husband of a disabled wife, rather than disabled myself). I don’t recall all the detail but I think it started to get a bit ‘tetchy’ and I think Trev was probably right to pull it. For what it’s worth, I only use one other forum than this one (entirely different subject matter) and the moderators delete posts constantly. Drives me nuts. As I say, I think the moderators on here have got the balance right.
I hope that you return to the forum regularly, especially the Open Arms where I think most of your threads probably sit better.
Hi Brydo all I can say is that the forum is a poorer place with your absence.
Thank you leamonme I really enjoyed posting but every now and again a topic comes up that sparks debate, but if we can’t have debate then we have, IMO, a deminished Forum.
Unfortunately lightbody there were no discussions, the thread was closed and that was the end of it. We are all grown ups and of course passionate people say things in the heat of the moment they may regret later but that’s life. IMO the offending thread, which wasn’t that offending but I realise why it was removed, could have been deleted with an explanation and the thread could have continued.
I’m new to this forum so I may be treading on some toes, which I apologise in advance for, but I believe that the ‘Off Topic’ / Open Arms part of the forum should be open to all points of view, which should be able to be legitimately expressed, as long as the discussions do not degenerate into personal insults, or leave the owners open to potential legal action.
We all see things differently, as an example ‘politically’, or there wouldn’t be a Conservative party or a Labour party, or Monster Raving Loony party , ( ( sorry now known as LibDems, and we’d have a one party state – SNP ? ), just joking , and no elections, and we wouldn’t support Arsenal whilst others support Man U , we’d all be supporting just one team?
So thank God there is variety in life, with different viewpoints on many subjects, otherwise it would be very boring, but we have to accept that praising something to some may be insulting to others, etc etc., and perhaps we should stop & think sometimes before spouting off!
The written word is the most difficult for our brains to interpret because we are not guided by tone of voice or facial expression, so a sentence like ‘the cat sat on the mat’ can be about the cat to some people, the mat to others and even about sitting to others.
So, long may there be differences in thought & opinion, freely expressed, it certainly enriches this forum.
I totally agree mike.
Hi Brydo, good to see you back posting and as others have said I hope it’s not temporary.
I’ve obviously read the views you’ve posted, and whilst i respect your opinions i stand by my decisions.
Debate is welcome and encouraged, but only if it is done in a respectful way and complies with the Forum Rules something we had published soon after the closing of the thread.
Whilst i had removed one post on that thread, it was of my opinion that there would be more to remove if the debate continued as the posts were already highly emotional. Then we have the problem where when posts are removed, the flow of the thread is distorted and doesn’t read properly, this then causes more problems. It’s just the way that any discussion on a forum works, so i took action early on to avoid this.
We are currently looking at having a dedicated ‘Ask a Mod’ thread, where ideas and feedback can be given. I feel this would also benefit in situations like this, so when a thread is closed posters have a window to ask questions if they wish. The forum is developing, and now we have the rules published with the goalposts clearly marked, i would hope it help in the smooth running of things.
To be fair the deleting of posts and closing of threads doesn’t happen often, and for an open forum that is pretty unusual and a testament to all those that post here. We have a very good thing going here, and whilst we have some established posters, we also have new posters, and those who are browsing and yet to post – The forum is for everyone to enjoy, and everyone must feel welcome to post.
You know me by now Brydo, not the best with words and getting things across, but from a personal level it did hit me when you stopped posting, i knew in my heart the reason why, and I questioned myself over and over again if i did the right thing. But i had to look at the bigger picture, for the good of the forum, and not about potentially upsetting someone i class as a friend. A tough call to make, and if i had a way of communicating to you personally i would have done so to explain to you why i had to do it – I know that may make me a weak mod, but i truly value your friendship on here, and i would hate that to be lost over something like this.
I hope this can be put behind us and that you’ll continue posting both here in the ‘open forum’ and in the ‘main forum’, as i said earlier in this thread i’m missing my ‘ev’ fix.
Brydo, I can see why you were personally upset. Trev’s decision to close the thread at that time meant that his post came immediately after your response, and could have looked like he was reacting to your particular post.
I can assure you that the closure in no way reflected on your post, but was a decision made because of the potential for the thread to become much more personal. I was watching the thread hoping that it would settle down, but I have to say if Trev hadn’t closed it at that time, I would have at about the same time for the same reasons.
The discussion was a valuable one but because of the Motability lease rules we were never going to agree on a solution. It therefore became a polarised discussion between the moral question (which I agreed with by the way) and the legal facts (which I reluctantly have to accept).
I think that there was a fairly broad agreement in the end that a period of grace needed to be written into the lease contract, but that was as far as the thread was able to usefully go.
Trev’s idea about ‘Ask a Mod’ is a good one, and we’ll implement it. It will give all of us a place to ask for explanations about all forum subjects including deletions and thread closures.
I hope you’ll be back with us now in your usual chatty and informative way Brydo. As Trev said, we make friendships on here, and yours is one that I value. Cheers.
Further to my earlier post, the quality of the explanations and justification provided above by Trev and Pops underline my point about how well this site is moderated. I referred in my post to another forum that I use. The moderators there refuse point blank to explain their actions and if anyone ever has the audacity to challenge their decisions, not only is that post deleted but the member receives sanctions on their account! It feels like North Korea! We are in an entirely different place on here and might just need a bit of perspective at times.
Trev, Pops I totally understand your point of view and I am a relatively recent poster to the site, but I don’t agree that closing down a thread is the way forward. I use some of the topics I raise on the this site as a sounding board before I raise the topics with mota or the charity. If the threads are stopped half way through the discussion the full picture is never achieved.
The thread split posters probably 70% against 30% for but my final question was “if the mota offered the car to the next of kin as part of the overall package free of charge would you accept it” or words to that effect. The answer to that question would have given me the information on how I move forward with my question.
I appreciate being a mod is not easy and Trev we most certainly are still friends, your a very good person IMHO, but the problem, well I see it as a problem, with the site, is still there. It is likely that I will still post in the future but I can’t help feeling the Forum could be so much more. The reason mota operations are being investigated, is because we didn’t challenge the obscenity of the pay and conditions of the staff. A Forum like this with the passionate intelligent people who post on it could do so much good but it has to be left alone to flourish.
Hi Everyone
Glad to see you are back posting Brydo.
I have noticed a new sticky thread Ask a Mod, maybe if this had been in place before your thread was removed, a question could have been raised about the way the thread was going and maybe some adjustments made, if so than maybe you would have carried on posting all your informative information you liked to pass on to us mere mortals.
I hope this may have cleared the air for all of us, and that you understand why the thread was closed, and that you still keep posting.
lightbodyae55
Interesting to read difference of opinions and feel although my fellow Mods and others have already covered reasons for removal etc. Which I wholeheartedly agreed with. I would like to point out decisions are not taken lightly, as Mods we have our own dedicated room where we can discuss our own concerns with the Mods and key master, I myself often seek the advice or opinions of them all as I may see a post differently as we are all different, so. In most cases before any decision is sanctioned we have agreed in advance for the good of the Forum and not individual opinion. Although it was Trev that removed the particular thread he had the backing of All of us.
I feel I should also point out unlike other Forums we have users with very Pacific challenges in life, if a thread has run its course or risks causing our users further distress through its content it’s absolutely the right thing to protect our users and remove a thread.
it is not our intention to dictate or take the higher ground, simply to protect the good of the Forum and its Users.
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