Advance look at the next list?

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  • #305888
    melinda71
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      I’m looking at the Skoda Elroq and almost ready to pull the trigger, but I’m nervous with it being rear wheel drive (I guess I may be old fashioned, and the only car I ever lost control of 20 years ago was the only 1 time I’ve previously owned a rear wheel drive car).  The Enyaq comes in 4×4, and I know it has the same wheelbase, but I just didn’t like the size when I went to view it.

      The Elroq vRS goes on order to the general public in mid-June and is 4WD.

      Is there anyone I can talk to in Motability or at Skoda to ask if this will be on the 1st July list, without having to wait until 1st July?  I tried the web chat but just got the standard response of ‘wait until July 1st’.

      I suspect it won’t be because it’s the ‘sporty’ version, but that said, there are some Cupra VZ models on the list…  Plus I don’t want it because it’s sporty, I want it because its 4×4.

      Is the alternative to order the normal Elroq now (and try not to worry about the rear wheel drive thing), and then if it did appear on the list in July, could I cancel my order and order the vRS instead?

      First time here, so thanks in anticipation!

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    • #305901
      Glos Guy
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        They wouldn’t know yet, even if they were prepared to tell you! Decisions can be made right up until the day before a new quarter – and in fact beyond, as the quarters no longer mean what they used to. Additions and deletions now happen on a daily basis and rarely seem to be ‘held back’ to quarter days. They are more about price changes now.

        I don’t know what the lead times are on Skoda Elroqs, but one option is to order the best model available now but if the VRS comes on the scheme cancel and reorder. However, I’d on,y do this if you would be happy with the lesser model. The VRS may never appear on the scheme and, even if it does, it may not appear until some months after launch.

        #305902
        Phaedra
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          It isn’t 4WD, none of the Elroq or Enyaq range ever have been.

          The X and vRS have All Wheel Drive (not the same as proper 4×4).

          Since version 4.0 and upward firmware versions came out in Dec 2023 that is now only available for traction control at speeds under 20Kph (about 12.4Mph).

          I’ve had my 85X out in the snow, I can say it handled a lot better than my previous Seat Ateca which was truly awful, mainly down to the appaling Bridgestone 19″ tyres, I have Bridgestones on the Enyaq (20″) and so far these are a lot better than the previous versions.

          Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

          #305903
          Avatar photoTillyman
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            Hi melinda71

            i ordered my Elroq 85 sportline maxx a few weeks ago and hope to take delivery at the end of July – I think it is excellent value on the scheme.

            Questions maybe to ask

            Where you live ie north of GB as opposed to south in terms of do you need a 4×4 – do you do a high mileage – your driving style – do you drive quickly and like to fling it around corners ?

            There are many good uk based Elroq reviews that all rate it highly and it has taken many of the plus points of the Enyaq that is again highly rated and a proven EV

            Rear wheel drive is arguably, generally speaking, less prone to wheel spin and safer.

            The safety tech on the top spec Elroq is amazing – the version you are considering I suspect even if offered on the scheme would be much more expensive – just book a test drive and see for yourself – I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

            I started a thread called Škoda Elroq – you may find some of the comments worth reading – hope this helps.

            #306288
            LDC7080
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              If you want an Elroq you will have to order Q2  they are being removed from the scheme from Q3 onwards according to motaclarity.   i have an ID.3 which is same platform and also RWD.   95% of the time it is fine.  when the weather is bad and very low temp i have been using eco mode as this has the dullest throttle responce and B mode which doesn’t allow the car to free wheel if you don’t have the foot on the accelerator.  as long as you drive to the conditions you’ll be fine with a RWD BEV

              #306293
              Avatar photoBandit
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                I think you’ll find that rwd these days is markedly different to yesteryear. With all the driver aids it’s probably nigh on impossible to get a waggle on even if f you want to (unless you’re able to switch them all off). Not like my old 3.0 Ghia Capri! 😆

                #306302
                Elliot
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                  My son has the Ford Mach-E which is rear wheel drive. I won’t take it out when the roads are wet because when I have the rear end has stepped out every time I’ve hit the accelerator. Something that’s never happened in my 85x Enyaq.

                  #306303
                  Glos Guy
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                    I’ve had a number of BMW 5 Series (rear wheel drive) over the years which, out of the hundreds of cars that I’ve driven over the last 40+ years, are the closest to perfection that a car gets. I never noticed any issues in rain, but I once got stuck in a hotel car park after snowfall and had to stay the night! After that I avoided driving them when there was snow and took our AWD car instead which, in the same conditions, didn’t miss a beat even though, in every other respect, and in all other weather conditions, it was inferior to the 5 Series!

                    #306306
                    kezo
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                      I’ve had a number of BMW 5 Series (rear wheel drive) over the years which, out of the hundreds of cars that I’ve driven over the last 40+ years, are the closest to perfection that a car gets. I never noticed any issues in rain, but I once got stuck in a hotel car park after snowfall and had to stay the night! After that I avoided driving them when there was snow and took our AWD car instead which, in the same conditions, didn’t miss a beat even though, in every other respect, and in all other weather conditions, it was inferior to the 5 Series!

                      As the saying goes BMW + snow + weight in boot = traction 😀

                      #306413
                      Olpk
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                        Driving a rear drive EV is not even remotely comparable to driving a rear drive ICE car.

                        Firstly the Ballance of the car is totally different as the weight is more evenly distributed through the vehicle. Then you have the driver aids to assist you.

                        Whilst you may get a bit of a kick out it would only be slight before the car reigns everything in if you leave all drivers aids on.

                        I’ve had the rear loosen on my enyaq and it rapidly fixes everything itself.

                        You don’t get the old issues of grip in snow either as that used to be down to lack of weight over the driven wheels. Old advice used to be to stick a bag of sand in your boot over winter to add weight. In an EV the weight of the battery pack does that for you.

                        #306415
                        Glos Guy
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                          @Olpk That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for explaining.

                          #306427
                          kezo
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                            50:50 weight distribution is a myth unless you are cornering at a constant speed, at a constant radius, then it will allow for constant grip and constant traction on all four corners however, when your driving your not taking corners at constant speed or a constant radius, because your deaccelerating into and accelerating out of. Therefore RWD with a slight rear weight distribution is optimum pivot point, as it allows for optimum weight distribution when braking and cornering, which is one reason performance race cars etc opt for rwd with slight rear bias weight distribution.

                            Older cars like the 911 & Capri had too much rear weight bias, which were more prone to oversteer, in a similar way a fwd causes understeer. The dawn of more modern computers in cars also aids with traction and stability, something older cars lacked or were more basic.

                            Most of BMW’s rwd have a 50:50 weigh distribution, but they are still crap in the snow, having wider rear tyres doesn’t help matters, but what an EV has on its side is weight however, that doesn’t distract from the fact a fwd or rwd car on proper season tyres will perform better than any 4wd or EV on summer tyres.

                             

                            #306467
                            melinda71
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                              Thanks for all the comments.  These, plus reading reviews online has made me feel (a lot) happier now about getting the rear wheel drive Elroq on order.  I guess technology has moved on a lot since I last drove a RWD car!

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