“A Tesla merger? How about one with Volkswagen?”

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    Brydo
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    With Elon Musk saying if a merger with another firm were on the cards he “would have this conversation”, and Volkswagen streamlining its operations, could VW and Tesla join forces?

    Mergers between huge car companies are nothing new. The recently formed Stellantis brand, a union between Groupe PSA and FCA, brought together 14 individual firms including Maserati and Vauxhall, the latter of which was only acquired by its PSA parent three years ago.

    With manufacturers across the world keen to pool resources, development costs and, increasingly, carbon-dioxide emissions, sense is to be found in the prospect of a merger between EV maker Tesla, and Volkswagen Group. Because while VW Group’s push into electric cars is now fully underway, the German manufacturer’s fleet average CO2 emissions stood at 123.6g/km as of March this year according to analysts at Jato, against a European Commission target of 95g/km for 2021.

    Car makers not meeting that fleet 95g/km target face big fines and some firms, such as FCA, have already paid to ‘pool’ their emissions with Tesla in order to offset potential penalties. A full-blown VW/Tesla partnership would presumably have a significant impact on Volkswagen Group’s fleet emissions. VW Group, meanwhile, could apply its almost peerless mass-production know-how to Tesla’s cars.

    There are other indications that a merger between Tesla and Volkswagen Group could be possible. Tesla boss Elon Musk recently said: “We are definitely not going to launch a hostile takeover, but if somebody said it would be a good idea to merge with Tesla, we would have this conversation.”

    VW Group boss Herbert Diess, meanwhile, spent one-on-one time with Elon Musk this year, giving the Tesla chief executive the opportunity to drive VW’s new ID.3 electric hatch. Diess subsequently said “there is no deal/cooperation in the making” between Tesla and Volkswagen, but Diess has also admitted Tesla technological lead in gives him “headaches”, according to internal VW communications reportedly obtained by German magazine Automobilwoche.

    Automobilwoche said Diess wrote: “What worries me the most is the capabilities in the assistance systems. 500,000 Teslas function as a neural network that continuously collects data and provides the customer a new driving experience every 14 days with improved properties. No other automobile manufacturer can do that today.”

    If one starts with the premise that a merger is on the cards, more evidence emerges that indicates this could be a possibility. Volkswagen Group is selling hypercar maker Bugatti to Rimac, according to reports, while rumours indicate the German giant could also sell Lamborghini.

    Other streamlining, cash-releasing operations include the recent announcement that Volkswagen is to halt all motorsport activities, integrating staff from Volkswagen Motorsport GmbH into the main Volkswagen AG company. Tesla, meanwhile, is brimming with cash, at least in terms of stock-market valuation, overtaking Toyota this summer to be the most valuable car maker in the world, with its share price climbing ever since.

    Speculation of a merger between Volkswagen and Tesla is just that, and it is possible these signs are incidental, and signify nothing. But if a merger is announced between the world’s most highly valued car maker and the largest manufacturer by volume, you read it here first.

    Tesla and Volkswagen Group declined to comment.

     

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    Martinod

    I would be surprised if it happens

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    Tharg

    Hmmm. Might be on the cards, I suppose. Good Thing or Bad Thing? Dunno. What I do know, however, is that I saw my first real ID3 today. It looks even better in the metal than in all those publicity/advert shots. It simply looks “right”, like Issigonis’ original Mini or the VW Beetle or any DeHavilland aeroplane. Can’t say that of the “sedan” Teslas.

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    alan1302
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    Could not see a merger going ahead – VW is a much larger company in reality that Tesla – I know the stock markets value Tesla highly but think that is all a bit fanciful – Tesla make about 375,000 cars – VW make 10, 900,000 of them.

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    Brydo

    Any merger is fraught with difficulties but there can be benefits to both sides if successful.

    In this case Tesla would get access to VW manufacturing might and VW would get a quantum leap in battery technology.

    A problem I forsee is Tesla isn’t just a car company, battery storage will be worth much more to the company than cars. They also have Tesla solar both ofvwhich would likely get partioned from any car merger.

    The biggest problem, however, is Musk himself, according to press reports he can be difficult to deal with and there’s no way VW would let him lead the joint company.

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